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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry David, my basic training was in Philosophy (and not engineering :)) so I tend to think with homologies and topological similarities -- similar implicit structures in widely varied circustances… <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Anyway, to answer your specific question, "which government's regulations do you believe should apply?"… Isn't that why we invented multi-lateral institutions… since in a variety of circumstances we can't--or won't--(for reasons I think we both agee on) rely on a single government's regulations?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Conrad<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 28, 2012 11:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] So Who (or What) is Managing Privacy for/by the 1 Billion+<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Michael,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I made those points in the context of taxation but I think they apply equally to issues of privacy…</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm not sure there is a generally recognized "right to be taxed" so equating policies related to taxation to policies related to privacy probably isn't the best base from which to build.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>However, ignoring that, my impression of the points you posted was that they were making the observation that there is increasing difficulty in trying to force a global infrastructure square peg into the round hole of parochial nation-state regulatory regimes. I don't disagree since this has been pretty obvious since the collapse of the telecom settlements regime in the mid-90s. However, nation-states refuse to go away, thus I'm left with the question that I asked you previously: which government's regulations do you believe should apply?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>An alternative could be evidenced by the fact that even without government intervention, Instagram lost 25% of its active user base as a result of their attempted change of their terms of service (<a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/rage_against_Dh05rPifiXBIJRE1rCOyML">http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/rage_against_Dh05rPifiXBIJRE1rCOyML</a>).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-drc<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>