<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> McTim [mailto:<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>]
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">"These Regulations recognize the right of access of Member States to international telecommunication services."</span> <span style="color:#1f497d">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:5.25pt"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d">[Milton L Mueller] That’s what I was afraid of.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:5.25pt"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d">So this is a more troublesome and complex issue than it might appear. In essence, countries such as Sudan have been complaining about
the ability of the US govt to impose sanctions on them for human rights violations. These sanctions mean that people in those countries – not just the government, mind you, but everyone, innocent and guilty alike – are denied access to Internet services such
as Google, Sourceforge, domain name registrars such as GoDaddy, Oracle, Windows Live Messenger, etc.</span></i></b></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>ACK. Not good for the Internet economy there.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:5.25pt"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d">I can understand why there would be adamant opposition to a claim to a right to access Internet services, because it would mean that
the ITRs could be used to compel Internet service providers to serve particular states, when they might choose (privately) not to. However, as a form of imposed state-state action, I am not so sanguine about protecting the ability of some governments to gang
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:5.25pt"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d">Suppose that the US decided to deny access to the domain name root zone resolution to, say Iran (.ir), because of its bad HR record.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:5.25pt"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d">Or suppose that ICANN decided to exclude Syria from the GAC.</span></i></b> </p></div>
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<div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:5.25pt"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1f497d"> Certainly Syria is a criminal regime. But do we want ICANN to be a neutral
meeting ground for all parties or not?</span></i></b></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yes. Who decides who gets in the GAC? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div>-- <br>
Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>