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<div>conspiranoia, aspersion-casting and theory apart, you'd do well to read the lists of targets. They far exceed the ITU and include all sorts of organizations, like legislatures and commerce chambers worldwide. Internet Governance actually happens in a world
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<div id="divRpF660383" style="direction: ltr;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2" color="#000000"><b>Desde:</b> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de michael gurstein [gurstein@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> viernes, 07 de diciembre de 2012 11:36<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> 'John Curran'<br>
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<b>Asunto:</b> [governance] RE: Internet Society's Statement Addressing Reported Attacks Against the ITU Website<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Thanks John, for pointing to the "Anonymous" screed and indicating that the "Attacks Against the ITU Website" should probably be seen rather more in the context
of "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_action" target="_blank">Direct Action</a>" than of an externally instigated "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynch_mob" target="_blank">lynch mob</a>".</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Also, BTB, the "Anonymous" screed that you point to is very interesting in itself (and dare I say rather more useful than almost all of the various anti-ITU
interventions including that from ISOC in that it actually ties its comments back into a framework other than vituperative anti-ITU (and by implication anti-UN) rhetorical flourishes and into a larger analysis of the necessarily evolving broader context of
global governance). </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Their analysis and prescriptions aren't one's I necessarily agree with, but they are contributions to that larger discussion that unfortunately the overblown
rhetoric of the last several months has served only to obscure--in this way serving should I say, and perhaps not incidentally, the interests of certain national and corporate entities.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> John Curran [mailto:jcurran@istaff.org]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 07, 2012 8:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> michael gurstein<br>
<b>Cc:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Internet Society's Statement Addressing Reported Attacks Against the ITU Website</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 7, 2012, at 10:14 AM, michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">It is extremely difficult to stop a lynch mob.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is important keep in mind that the number of machines in a DDoS attack does not </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">equal the number of actual actors; i.e. 100 thousand people protesting by gathering </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">in a city square is a definitely a demonstration of civil empowerment, whereas 100 </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">thousand machines performing a denial of service attack against a web site could</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As some of the statements explaining the need for such attacks would imply that</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><<a href="http://legionnet.inc.nl.eu.org/2012/12/stop-madness-anonymous-counterproposal.html" target="_blank">http://legionnet.inc.nl.eu.org/2012/12/stop-madness-anonymous-counterproposal.html</a>>,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">it is perfectly reasonable for ISOC to issue a statement indicating that closing down</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">/John </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Disclaimers: My views alone. Websites which contain these views are not responsible</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">for their content and should not be attacked solely on that basis. Coming up with other</p>
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