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    Frankly I am not sure what kind of institutionalist Milton is. This
    is not the Alexander Hamilton, Daniel Rayomond, Richard Ely, E
    Pershine Smith, Frederich List and JK Galbraith, who all had a keen
    head for facts and history. <br>
    <br>
    Britain used free trade ideas as a means to maintain its dominance
    over other nations. The workshop of the world that encouraged
    everyone to liberalise, that free trade (and then classical
    economics) was best. And in the Pax (?) Americana, neoclassical
    economics (in infinite disguises) and the Washington Consensus
    serves the same function. <br>
    <br>
    Now I have no truck disagreeing with Mueller on economics - these
    approaches differ in method as well as context, so there is room for
    disagreement. But on the politics of the matter (sorry Milton, for
    some Institutionalists if it is relevant then it must be included in
    the "calculation") Milton, with what I surmise from his
    Institutionalism - not having read all his work, is no different
    from American Exceptionalists on this list. Of course I am aware
    that in the American context(where what passes for progressive is
    quit different, this may well be the case. It simply cannot be
    generalised.<br>
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    And in the "competition" through subsidised efforts Europe builds
    capabilities - both the tech no-(harware) and -ology (its people).
    One of the key elements of benefiting from a network is that skills
    can be diffused. Consumption of technology rich goods is not the
    same as producing them. Actually in a reverse sort of way the status
    quoists (exceptionalists, Institutionalists of a special type,
    neoliberals, etc) seek to maintain the US dominance by playing to
    that nations comparative advantage - also in institutions like ICANN
    and the posse that goes with it. <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2012/12/05 10:25 PM, Dominique
      Lacroix wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 05/12/12 20:26, Milton L Mueller a
        écrit :<br>
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              development of the TCP/IP protocols were supported by
              military research contracts, which had no intention of
              supporting a commercial industry. "The Internet" spread to
              the general population and succeeded because of
              telecommunications liberalization and a free market. </span></p>
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      <big><big>Dear Milton, you seem a little dizzy. You skipped
          merrily the NSF action in the 1981-1995 years...<br>
          And then, also, the CIA action, via the In-Q-Tel venture
          capital firm, launched in 1999.<br>
          And also the military orders in the advanced IT field.<br>
          Perhaps I forget something. I'm also a bit dizzy...<br>
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              government played an important role in facilitating that
              process by privatizing control and paving the way for
              competition among ISPs. There is no doubt about that. </span></p>
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      <big><big>Exact.</big></big> <big><big>And not enough: Google
          should be prosecuted for dominance abuse.</big></big><br>
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              we are being frank, perhaps you can tell me how successful
              European efforts to subsidize search engine technology to
              compete with Google has been? </span></p>
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      <big><big>I assume you already heard about the networks effect
          that gives an advantage to the first big player.<br>
          That's exactly why China and other countries protect their
          boundaries in order to help their IT industry to find
          existence.</big></big><br>
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      <big><big>Do you think that Europe also ought to close their
          virtual boundaries?<br>
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          @+, Dom</big></big><br>
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                frankly, Milton, did internet begin in the US by free
                market or by the US Gov action?<br>
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