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<div>has anyone had the thought "here we go again" and noticed that the discussion is starting a rehash of everything already discussed, without new elements?</div>
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<div id="divRpF602612" style="direction: ltr;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2" color="#000000"><b>Desde:</b> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de Fahd A. Batayneh [fahd.batayneh@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 28 de noviembre de 2012 00:06<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> IG Caucus<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [governance] http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/27/net-us-un-internet-idUSBRE8AQ06320121127<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Option number 2 sounds promising provided that that it ensures FoE online and does not manipulate the multi-stakeholder approach. Fighting child pornography and enhancing cyber-security are possible examples on where option number 2 could be
justified.<br>
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Fahd<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:03 PM, michael gurstein <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1f497d">I think it might be useful if the various discussants involved in the WCIT/ITU debate were to indicate which of these categories they would fall into:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1f497d"> 1. no regulation of the Internet period<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1f497d"> 2. possible regulation/global governance of the Internet in certain areas for certain issues but not by the ITU<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1f497d"> 3. regulation of the Internet in certain identified issue areas by the ITU<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1f497d">It seems to me that a lot of the loudest voices in the discussion have come from those whose broad position is #1 but in a feat of legerdemaine they have
managed to stampede many of those whose ultimate position would be #2 (based on a reasoned assessment of the broad needs of the global community) to support them by arguing that there were in fact only two options #1 and #3.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1f497d">That option #1 (i.e. the default option) would seem to strongly favour the current dominant geo-political and commercial incumbents is of course purely accidental.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee W McKnight<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [governance] <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/27/net-us-un-internet-idUSBRE8AQ06320121127" target="_blank">
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/27/net-us-un-internet-idUSBRE8AQ06320121127</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">In case you missed it...today's Reuters article re WCIT.<br>
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