Norbert, I understand your point (I think), but I wonder if that boils down to #2? (Which I agree with Ian is what we want, even if I differ on the strategy needed to get there). Mike's 3 options are simplifications, but the are useful for this discussion (at least for me). Can you put #4 into a simpler statement, if you don't agree that it is part of #2 (and, please, not 'none of the above' :)). <br>
<br>I like this step back from the complexities. Generalizations sometimes have a place for a synthesis/snapshot of the big picture to get things in perspective, without implying that it gives an accurate or complete view.<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 November 2012 02:15, Norbert Bollow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Michael Gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> I think it might be useful if the various discussants involved in the<br>
> WCIT/ITU debate were to indicate which of these categories they would<br>
> fall into:<br>
><br>
> 1. no regulation of the Internet period<br>
><br>
> 2. possible regulation/global governance of the<br>
> Internet in certain areas for certain issues but not by the ITU<br>
><br>
> 3. regulation of the Internet in certain identified<br>
> issue areas by the ITU<br>
<br>
My view differs from all of those, so I'd like to choose<br>
<br>
4. since the boundary line between "Internet governance" and "the<br>
various activities of governments and international organizations which<br>
are not directly aimed at governance or regulation of the Internet" is<br>
becoming increasingly blurred (telecommunications convergence is only<br>
the tip of this iceberg IMO), we should take a step back, and think<br>
about public interest goals and objectives (stating them in a<br>
technology-neutral form that avoids to use the word "Internet" or any<br>
explicit or implicit reference to the TCP/IP protocol stack), and on<br>
the basis of that about strategies (I'd be very surprised if there is<br>
a single public-interest objective in the world today for which the<br>
Internet, together with some implied assumptions on what the Internet<br>
is assumed to be like, isn't part of every reasonable solution<br>
strategy), and on the basis of that about roles and needed reforms of<br>
institutions including the ITU, as well as about the formal, legal<br>
establishment of whatever principles may be needed (in addition to the<br>
many aspects of international human rights law that apply to the<br>
Internet).<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
Norbert<br>
<br>
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