<div><span class="hps">I am very</span> <span class="hps">attracted by</span> <span class="hps">this</span> <span class="hps">very</span> <span class="hps">observation</span> <span class="hps">pertienente</span><span>.</span><br>
<span class="hps">I propose that a</span> <span class="hps">moderator</span> <span class="hps">is</span> <span class="hps">identified by</span> <span class="hps">countries to</span> <span class="hps">channel the</span> <span class="hps">contributions of participants</span> <span class="hps">at a distance.</span> <span class="hps">At the</span> <span class="hps">moderator</span> <span class="hps">has the</span> <span class="hps">IGF</span><span>, it</span> <span class="hps">may be assisted</span> <span class="hps">by</span> <span class="hps">one or two people</span> <span class="hps">to organize</span> <span class="hps">interventions</span> <span class="hps">to present to the</span> <span class="hps">public.</span></div>
<p><span class="hps"></span> </p><div><span class="hps"></span> </div><div><br clear="all">SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN<br><br>Téléphone mobile:+243998983491<br>email : <a href="mailto:b.schombe@gmail.com" target="_blank">b.schombe@gmail.com</a><br>
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<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2012/11/8 Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">
<div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I would like to start a thread of concrete suggestions for improving RP. I know all of us who participated remotely have our impressions of what could be better, so why not share them?</div>
<div><br></div><div>My personal views about being a remote participant today - for the first time in the IGF - is that the webcast of all sessions and the captioning are tremendous tools, the existence of hubs multiplies IGF discussions, and the fact that RP is available to any individual in the world is a remarkable sign of openness. But, in spite of all the undeniable achievements, progress needs to be made to ensure inclusion of views of remote participants into the IGF debate.</div>
<div><br></div><div>That difficulty, in my opinion, has to do with one main reason: In spite of the huge number of remote participants (47 hubs, more than 800 people last year), the <u>methodology of most workshop sessions</u> <u>remains unchanged</u>. We have not adjust to the new reality and the sessions are planned exclusively for those who are physically in the IGF. One possible reason for that could be that we have too many sessions on the schedule and too many issues to discuss. My feeling was that session moderators were so under pressure that, on the heat of the debate, they tended to see remote participants as an obstacle to "moving the discussion forward", not as IGF participants. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Maybe<u> less and longer sessions</u> on IGF schedule would reduce pressure. Time pressure makes people impatient with the difficulties that non-native English speakers may have, or with occasional technical glitches, which we need to cope with, if we really want to include remote participants. It is up to us to decide what we value the most as a community: Speed of discussions? Inclusion? Sometimes they are in a trade-off.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It would be important to r<u>educe the distance between remote participants and the session moderator</u>. Most session moderators don't remember to look at the screen and check if questions are popping up in Webex. So remote participants lose the "timing" of making interventions. Maybe we could establish a procedure so remote participants could <u>send questions to the session moderator before the IGF</u>, so he could incorporate some of them into his own set of questions to the panelists. For the "live" questions, the remote participation moderator should have a <u>clear visual way</u> to sign to the session moderator that a remote question has been asked, like raising a red flag. Of course, audio interventions need to be more encouraged, even if their moment needs to be carefully planned and agreed upon between the session moderators and the technical team. </div>
<div><br></div><div><u>There should not be a session without a remote moderator</u>. Imagine someone who blocked her agenda to participate in a workshop and then, surprise: you stay in a room talking to the walls. If remote participation is an integral part of the IGF, this is unacceptable. Workshops without remote moderators should not be approved (for real), and those physically present in the room should confirm if the moderator is indeed there. As a last resort, anyone could take the role of being a moderator in case the person is missing. </div>
<div><br></div><div>My main point is that, in spite of the technical improvements that should always be made, <u>making remote participation inclusive is up to the community, especially of those who plan the sessions</u>. Some organizers did a great job in linking up with remote hubs, planing for the participation of remote speakers and participants. But I seems they were still a minority. </div>
<div><br></div><div>To mention the <u>technical aspects</u>, to me the greater problem was lack of integration between webex, webcast and captioning. Going back and forth in different windows was not practical. On a positive side, the quality of the image of the webcast seemed to be better, and the cameras were placed in a better position inside the room. It helped to read facial and body expressions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>One last point: some time ago, it was proposed that a task force would be created to <u>exchange knowledge and best practices regarding RP</u> with other organizations that have also been struggling and making progress at it, such as ITU (and many others as a matter of fact) in the UN. I don't know why it did not fly. I hope that political sensitivities do not hamper what could be a fruitful dialogue about a topic that is a common challenge. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Best wishes and a safe journey to all returning from Baku!</div><div><br></div><div>Marília </div><div> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Imran Ahmed Shah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><span>Hi all, <br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span>I was logged into Room #10 remotely, webex but there was no other attendee.</span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>The webex Schedule </span><span>(as on 6th and 7th) </span><span>has single first day pre-meeting of 5th Nov but after refreshing promt appear for login and after login it connected me Room # 7th Nov meeting.</span></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span>I keep trying to obtain response from Moderator (Ms Nina), but could not established interactive response, and I do not know that have she read my text input or not. I think </span><span>Moderator was too busy in the meeting physically and given zero importance to single Remote Participant. So, RP was useless.</span></div>
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<span>Regards</span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><br><span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span>Imran</span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>(for IGFPAK)<br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<br><span></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span><br></span></div><div><span></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-top:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left-color:rgb(16,16,255);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid">
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Jean-Yves GATETE <<a href="mailto:gate.one205@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">gate.one205@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>; Rudi Vansnick <<a href="mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be" target="_blank">rudi.vansnick@isoc.be</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 8 November 2012, 3:18<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] IGF2012, Remote Connection<br> </font> </div><div><div>
<br><div><div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi all,</span></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span>as Mr Rudi, I ve been following via that webcast tool too. I have the same problem too and the Room10 is not working either. </span></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span></span> </div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Wishing you all the best,</span></div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent">
<span></span> </div><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent"><span>Jean-Yves GATETE</span></div><div><span></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <div style="margin:5px 0px;padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);line-height:0pt;font-size:0px;min-height:0px">
</div> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">De :</span></b> Rudi Vansnick <<a href="mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be" target="_blank">rudi.vansnick@isoc.be</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">À :</span></b> Crepin-Leblond Olivier <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc :</span></b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé le :</span></b> Jeudi 8 novembre 2012 10h54<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet :</span></b> Re: [governance] IGF2012, Remote Connection<br> </font> </div> <br>I've used the remote participation tools daily (till today). The webex allows to
participate through the chat and the Q&A windows, but the webcast is always giving me the same error.<br>If I want to see the room I have to use the webcast tool (<a href="http://webcast.igf2012.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://webcast.igf2012.com/</a>) , which is of course not fully synchronised with the webex session. From room 6 till room 9 the audio in the webcast is very low. With the volume on the max here I can hardly understand the speakers.<br>
<br>The descriptions of the rooms workshops in the webcast window is not updated and gives sometimes wrong session information.<br><br>Rudi
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Dendermondesteenweg 143 B-9070 Destelbergen<br><a href="http://www.internetsociety.be" target="_blank">www.internetsociety.be</a> "The Internet is for everyone"<br><br>Op 8-nov-2012, om 04:29 heeft Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond het volgende geschreven:<br>
<br>> I suppose rp has probably been flooded with enquiries.<br>> Since the beginning of the week, I saw Bernard run around trying to fix<br>> things.<br>> The remote participation computers running Webex are all wired in and<br>
> appear to work well but the
network sometimes goes through
some periods<br>> of being very slow. This is when the WIFI works and guess what, the WIFI<br>> does not work well at all. In fact, I have spent complete afternoons<br>> without WIFI. (not enough IPv4 addresses to allocate -- and no IPv6<br>
> connectivity at all in case you ask)<br>> <br>> Whilst so far, I have been super impressed with the host country, this<br>> is, in my opinion, the poorest Internet connectivity we've had at the<br>> venue in recent IGFs. <sigh><br>
> <br>> Kind regards,<br>> <br>> Olivier<br>> <br>> On 07/11/2012 00:04, Norbert Bollow wrote:<br>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 8:16 PM, shaila mistry <<a href="mailto:shailam@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">shailam@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Hi everyone<br>>>> I too have tried several times to participate. Each time I am sent a<br>>>> different route of
downloads and logins , finally
leading to a dead end.<br>>>> Please advise what can be done ?<br>>>> Shaila Rao Mistry<br>>> Have you tried contacting<br>>> <br>>> "Remote Participation general help" <<a href="mailto:rp@intgovforum.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rp@intgovforum.org</a>><br>
>> <br>>> ?<br>>> <br>>> Do they respond?<br>>> <br>>> If yes, what are they saying?<br>>> <br>>> If no, let us know, so that we can push locally for those help email<br>>> addresses to be handled in a meaningful way.<br>
>> <br>>> In the long run, what we need is funding to put a competent person in<br>>> charge of ensuring in an ongoing manner (year after year) that IGF<br>>> remote participation is made available in a way that can be expected<br>
>> to work (which presupposes learning from what went wrong in earlier<br>>> years,
and it presupposes serious
testing well before the first day of<br>>> the IGF). It is simply unacceptable for an entirely new technical team<br>>> to put in charge of remote participation every year, and the remote<br>>> participation infrastructure again and again being so absurdly<br>
>> unreliable.)<br>>> <br>>> Greetings,<br>>> Norbert<br>>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD<br>> <a href="http://www.gih.com/ocl.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.gih.com/ocl.html</a><br>
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