<div>Alex, the way I see it the whole point of having Kapil Sibal (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapil_Sibal">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapil_Sibal</a>) be there would be to represent the government and the government's interests (yes I remember 'government' having 'interests' is not particularly positive from a previous discussion - but bear with me here). It's very true that governments are not well coordinated - I mean the minister for IT visiting an international conference (and representing 'India' instead of 'indian government') IMHO should have been in the papers a week before the fact (because it's a big positive step/attitude change). And he should make a formal statement when he comes back about where they see India in the future and how we can do better, key learnings, etc.</div>
<div> </div><div>I'm sure there will be good notes and as we discuss them here we'll naturally come to understand if anything has been 'edited' out. I don't think that'll be such a problem....</div>
<div> </div><div>Still rolling with laughter about 'oversight part should not be included'... </div><div> </div><div>-C<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apisan@unam.mx" target="_blank">apisan@unam.mx</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Parminder, could you ratify/clarify a statement you made at the end, just because the microphones were turned off? I heard you say "maybe the oversight part should not be included". This - for those not present - was after Parminder said that the CIRP
proposal does not affect any existing Internet Governance mechanisms, and Bill Drake read text (which was also readable in the rolling transcript) proving that it does, and does more, like propose CIRP to perform arbitration and other functions. </div>
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<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [governance] URGENT- meeting with the Indian minister<br>
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<div>+1 Great stuff Parminder! I'm assuming there will be some sort of summary/minutes of the meeting so the rest of us have an idea of what the good minister's plans are for the future.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
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<div>This is excellent Parminder and a great opportunity to engage in dialogue.</div>
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Dear All<br>
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The Indian minister for IT will like to meet civil members tomorrow<br>
morning at 930 AM at the Park Hyatt Hotel, here in Baku.<br>
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I know this is pretty late to inform you about it but \i have personally<br>
invited almost all civil society guys who are already at Baku for the<br>
bestbits meeting. However, there may be others who may have reached Baku<br>
and be interested to meet the minister, in which case please do consider<br>
yourself invited, in case you can make it to Park Hyatt by 930 AM.<br>
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