I agree with you Milton.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Carlos ALBERTO Afonso received overwhelming support from this list, as I recall. He is more than a de facto, he is a legitimate choice. As I recall also, Nnenna politely informed us that she was private sector but expressed a willingness to speak for CS if we wanted her to and gave her a prepared statement. To my mind, that means we should choose someone else. But, I also thought that the UN had made the second choice for us.<br>
<br>
--MM<br>
<div><div class="h5"><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
><br>
> Though I said we may run a poll, I guess Carlos is already our de facto<br>
> speaker, and Nnnena seems to have received good support and fulfills the<br>
> gender balance and also from developing region.<br>
><br>
> And as Ginger rightly suggested both speakers will take up the talking<br>
> points into their text, with some degree of, of course, their own words<br>
> to be added.<br>
><br>
> May I ask you if this is our rough consensus?<br>
><br>
> Many thanks,<br>
><br>
> izumi<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2012/10/11 William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>:<br>
> > it's what they're sending registrants<br>
> ><br>
> > On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Katy P wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > What? When did this happen?<br>
> ><br>
> > On Oct 11, 2012 8:24 AM, "William Drake" <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> In light of the host country's jaw dropping decision to publicly<br>
> >> disseminate all participants' passport numbers, I hope whoever we<br>
> >> have speaking in the opening an closing will emphasize the centrality<br>
> >> of personal privacy protection in Internet governance.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best<br>
> >><br>
> >> Bill<br>
> >><br>
> >> On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Nnenna wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> +1 On each of the points below. I am currently in the Côte d'Ivoire<br>
> >> Internet Governance Forum and my drafting capacity is limited.<br>
> >> However, I would like to see a line that extends<br>
> >> "Multistakeholderism" down to active national participation of all<br>
> >> stakeholders. AFAIK, in as much as in some countries, the government<br>
> >> is weighing in, in ways that may appear overbearing, in others, the<br>
> >> decision-makers are actually note interested or think it is an NGO<br>
> thing.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Can we have a "Development Agenda" paragraph? I am also thinking that<br>
> >> "Participation" may also need to be a paragraph of its own<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best<br>
> >><br>
> >> Nnenna<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Nnenna Nwakanma | Founder and CEO, <a href="http://NNENNA.ORG" target="_blank">NNENNA.ORG</a> | Consultants<br>
> >> Information | Communications | Technology and Events | for<br>
> >> Development Cote d'Ivoire (+225)| Tel: 225 27144 | Fax 224 26471<br>
> >> |Mob. 07416820<br>
> >> Ghana: <a href="tel:%2B233%20249561345" value="+233249561345">+233 249561345</a>| Nigeria: <a href="tel:%2B234%208101887065" value="+2348101887065">+234 8101887065</a>|<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.nnenna.org" target="_blank">http://www.nnenna.org</a> <a href="mailto:nnenna@nnenna.org">nnenna@nnenna.org</a>| @nnenna | Skype - nnenna75 |<br>
> >> <a href="http://nnennaorg.blogspot.com" target="_blank">nnennaorg.blogspot.com</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> ________________________________<br>
> >> From: Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>><br>
> >> To: 'Ginger Paque' <<a href="mailto:ginger@paque.net">ginger@paque.net</a>>;<br>
> "<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>"<br>
> >> <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>><br>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:07 PM<br>
> >> Subject: RE: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> From: <a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a>] On Behalf Of Ginger<br>
> >> Paque<br>
> >><br>
> >> I think that both points are important... I would say 'in addition<br>
> >> to' not 'rather than'. Whom we choose sends a signal as sometimes as<br>
> >> significant as their words, and we tend to know their general<br>
> >> positions as well as speaking abilities when we nominate them.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Ginger and colleagues:<br>
> >> Yes, of course it is "in addition to" not "rather than" - but has<br>
> >> there been any substantive discussion yet? Frankly I think what they<br>
> >> say is more important than who we choose, but agree that in some<br>
> >> cases "the medium is the message." At any rate we are long on "who"<br>
> and rather short on "what"<br>
</div></div>> >> at the moment, so.<br>
<div class="im">> >><br>
> >> let me throw out three short statements on issues that I passionately<br>
> >> believe should be addressed. In doing so, I will make an attempt to<br>
> >> address them in a way that takes into account the differences among<br>
> >> us and hope others do so in the same spirit. Other candidate topics<br>
</div>> >> would include IPR, development.I defer to others there.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> >><br>
> >> Human rights<br>
> >> CS believes that the absence of gatekeepers and the open, global<br>
> >> communication enabled by the Internet realizes the promise of Article<br>
> >> 19 of the UN UDHR. To erect (national) legal barriers to the free<br>
> >> flow of information is a bad idea and contrary to the individual<br>
> >> human right to freedom of expression. We therefore oppose efforts to<br>
> >> create "national Internets," or to block and filter internet access<br>
> >> in ways that deny individuals access to applications, content and<br>
> services of their choice.<br>
> >> All attempts to deem certain forms of communication and information<br>
> >> illegal and remove them must follow established, transparent<br>
> >> processes of law and should not involve prior restraint.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Security and Securitization<br>
> >> CS opposes efforts to militarize the Internet, or any actions that<br>
> >> would foster a destructive and wasteful cyber arms race among<br>
> >> governments and/or private actors. We consider the surreptitious use<br>
> >> of exploits and malware for surveillance or attacks to be criminal<br>
> >> regardless of whether they are deployed by governments, private<br>
> >> corporations or organized criminals. We are skeptical of efforts to<br>
> >> subordinate the design and use of information and communication<br>
> >> technology to "national security" agendas. We believe that Internet<br>
> >> security will be achieved primarily at the operational level and that<br>
> >> national security and military agendas often work against rather than<br>
> for users' security needs.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Multistakeholderism<br>
> >> Global governance institutions should not be restricted to states, so<br>
> >> CS welcomes the additional participation in global policy making that<br>
> >> multi-stakeholder processes provide. But CS cautions that<br>
> >> multi-stakeholder participation is not an end in itself. Opening up<br>
> >> global governance institutions to additional voices from civil<br>
> >> society and business does not by itself ensure that individual rights<br>
> >> are adequately protected or that the best substantive policies are<br>
> >> developed and enforced. In the informal spaces created by MS<br>
> >> institutions, it is possible that powerful governmental and corporate<br>
> actors can make deals contrary to the interests of Internet users.<br>
> >> MS processes must incorporate and institutionalize concepts of due<br>
> >> process, separation of powers and user's inalienable civil and<br>
> political rights.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Milton L. Mueller<br>
> >> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies Internet<br>
> >> Governance Project <a href="http://blog.internetgovernance.org" target="_blank">http://blog.internetgovernance.org</a><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> ____________________________________________________________<br>
> >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
> >> To be removed from the list, visit:<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> For all other list information and functions, see:<br>
> >> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><br>
> >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> ____________________________________________________________<br>
> >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
> >> To be removed from the list, visit:<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> For all other list information and functions, see:<br>
> >> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><br>
> >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> ____________________________________________________________<br>
> >> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>
> >> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
> >> To be removed from the list, visit:<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> For all other list information and functions, see:<br>
> >> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><br>
> >> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ____________________________________________________________<br>
> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>
> > <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
> > To be removed from the list, visit:<br>
> > <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br>
> ><br>
> > For all other list information and functions, see:<br>
> > <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><br>
> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>
> > <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><br>
> ><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> >> Izumi Aizu <<<br>
><br>
> Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo<br>
><br>
> Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,<br>
> Japan<br>
> * * * * *<br>
> << Writing the Future of the History >><br>
> <a href="http://www.anr.org" target="_blank">www.anr.org</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><br>____________________________________________________________<br>
You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>
<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
To be removed from the list, visit:<br>
<a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br>
<br>
For all other list information and functions, see:<br>
<a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><br>
To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>
<a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br>
<br>
Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div>Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala</div><div>P.O. Box 17862</div><div>Suva</div><div>Fiji</div><div><br></div><div>Twitter: @SalanietaT</div><div>Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro</div>
<div>Fiji Cell: +679 998 2851</div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:16px"><br></span></font></div><br>