<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>me too :)</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span></span></div><div><span></span></div><div> </div><style><!--filtered {font-family:"Comic Sans MS";panose-1:3 15 7 2 3 3 2 2 2 4;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";}filtered {margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;}div.Section1 {}--></style><style><!--filtered {font-family:"Comic Sans MS";panose-1:3 15 7 2 3 3 2 2 2 4;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";}filtered {margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;}div.Section1 {}--></style><div><span class="Apple-style-span"
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style="font-size:10pt;color:purple;">..................... the renaissance of composure !<br></span></b></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org; Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:40 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv710773921">yes it took me by surprise as well Mawaki. :O<div><br></div><div>Sala<br><br><div class="yiv710773921gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Robert Guerra <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv710773921gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">To be honest, in my opinion, the process to select speakers for the main opening session has seemed ad-hoc at best.<br>
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Would have expected a far more deliberate process along the lines that the caucus reviews, recommends and nominates persons for the MAG.<br>
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On 2012-10-31, at 6:09 PM, Mawaki Chango wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> ... Still, I'm not sure I understand the process that got us<br>
> nominating people and end up with a name that was never mentioned here<br>
> (this is nothing personal). Were there other CS groups that had been<br>
> running the same nomination process? Is this at the discretion of the<br>
> Secretariat? And what happens now to the idea of collectively prepared<br>
> discourse or talking points, and to Milton's good start on that?<br>
><br>
> Just asking.<br>
><br>
> mawaki<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Nnenna <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:nne75@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:nne75@yahoo.com">nne75@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I think Carlos and Valentina make a great pair.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers<br>
>><br>
>> N<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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>><br>
>> ________________________________<br>
>> From: Carlos A. Afonso <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank" href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a>><br>
>> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>; <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:glaser@cgi.br" target="_blank" href="mailto:glaser@cgi.br">glaser@cgi.br</a><br>
>> Cc: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:32 PM<br>
>> Subject: Re: Re: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku<br>
>><br>
>> :)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Carlos A. Afonso<br>
>><br>
>> William Drake <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> escreveu:<br>
>> My apologies to Carlos, I cut and paste from someone else's email<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Hartmut Richard Glaser wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Correct name is => Carlos Alberto Afonso ...<br>
>><br>
>> ==========================================<br>
>> On 31/10/12 17:04, William Drake wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi<br>
>><br>
>> The secretariat has invited Carlos Alfonso for the opening session and<br>
>> Valentina Pellizzer for the closing session.<br>
>><br>
>> Bill<br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Dear list,<br>
>><br>
>> Sorry for not following this up earlier. Just too many things to do.<br>
>><br>
>> Though I said we may run a poll, I guess Carlos is already our de facto<br>
>> speaker,<br>
>> and Nnnena seems to have received good support and fulfills the gender<br>
>> balance<br>
>> and also from developing region.<br>
>><br>
>> And as Ginger rightly suggested both speakers will take up the talking<br>
>> points<br>
>> into their text, with some degree of, of course, their own words to be<br>
>> added.<br>
>><br>
>> May I ask you if this is our rough consensus?<br>
>><br>
>> Many thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> izumi<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2012/10/11 William Drake <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>:<br>
>><br>
>> it's what they're sending registrants<br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Katy P wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> What? When did this happen?<br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 11, 2012 8:24 AM, "William Drake" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank" href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> In light of the host country's jaw dropping decision to publicly<br>
>> disseminate all participants' passport numbers, I hope whoever we have<br>
>> speaking in the opening an closing will emphasize the centrality of personal<br>
>> privacy protection in Internet governance.<br>
>><br>
>> Best<br>
>><br>
>> Bill<br>
>><br>
>> On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:10 AM, Nnenna wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> +1 On each of the points below. I am currently in the Côte d'Ivoire<br>
>> Internet Governance Forum and my drafting capacity is limited. However, I<br>
>> would like to see a line that extends "Multistakeholderism" down to active<br>
>> national participation of all stakeholders. AFAIK, in as much as in some<br>
>> countries, the government is weighing in, in ways that may appear<br>
>> overbearing, in others, the decision-makers are actually note interested or<br>
>> think it is an NGO thing.<br>
>><br>
>> Can we have a "Development Agenda" paragraph? I am also thinking that<br>
>> "Participation" may also need to be a paragraph of its own<br>
>><br>
>> Best<br>
>><br>
>> Nnenna<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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>> ________________________________<br>
>> From: Milton L Mueller <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>><br>
>> To: 'Ginger Paque' <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ginger@paque.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ginger@paque.net">ginger@paque.net</a>>; "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>"<br>
>> <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:07 PM<br>
>> Subject: RE: [governance] CS Speakers for Baku<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gpaque@gmail.com">gpaque@gmail.com</a>] On Behalf Of Ginger Paque<br>
>><br>
>> I think that both points are important... I would say 'in addition to' not<br>
>> 'rather than'. Whom we choose sends a signal as sometimes as significant as<br>
>> their words, and we tend to know their general positions as well as speaking<br>
>> abilities when we nominate them.<br>
>><br>
>> Ginger and colleagues:<br>
>> Yes, of course it is "in addition to" not "rather than" - but has there<br>
>> been any substantive discussion yet? Frankly I think what they say is more<br>
>> important than who we choose, but agree that in some cases "the medium is<br>
>> the message." At any rate we are long on "who" and rather short on "what"<br>
>> at the moment, so…<br>
>><br>
>> let me throw out three short statements on issues that I passionately<br>
>> believe should be addressed. In doing so, I will make an attempt to address<br>
>> them in a way that takes into account the differences among us and hope<br>
>> others do so in the same spirit. Other candidate topics would include IPR,<br>
>> development…I defer to others there.<br>
>><br>
>> Human rights<br>
>> CS believes that the absence of gatekeepers and the open, global<br>
>> communication enabled by the Internet realizes the promise of Article 19 of<br>
>> the UN UDHR. To erect (national) legal barriers to the free flow of<br>
>> information is a bad idea and contrary to the individual human right to<br>
>> freedom of expression. We therefore oppose efforts to create "national<br>
>> Internets," or to block and filter internet access in ways that deny<br>
>> individuals access to applications, content and services of their choice.<br>
>> All attempts to deem certain forms of communication and information illegal<br>
>> and remove them must follow established, transparent processes of law and<br>
>> should not involve prior restraint.<br>
>><br>
>> Security and Securitization<br>
>> CS opposes efforts to militarize the Internet, or any actions that would<br>
>> foster a destructive and wasteful cyber arms race among governments and/or<br>
>> private actors. We consider the surreptitious use of exploits and malware<br>
>> for surveillance or attacks to be criminal regardless of whether they are<br>
>> deployed by governments, private corporations or organized criminals. We are<br>
>> skeptical of efforts to subordinate the design and use of information and<br>
>> communication technology to "national security" agendas. We believe that<br>
>> Internet security will be achieved primarily at the operational level and<br>
>> that national security and military agendas often work against rather than<br>
>> for users' security needs.<br>
>><br>
>> Multistakeholderism<br>
>> Global governance institutions should not be restricted to states, so CS<br>
>> welcomes the additional participation in global policy making that<br>
>> multi-stakeholder processes provide. But CS cautions that multi-stakeholder<br>
>> participation is not an end in itself. Opening up global governance<br>
>> institutions to additional voices from civil society and business does not<br>
>> by itself ensure that individual rights are adequately protected or that the<br>
>> best substantive policies are developed and enforced. In the informal spaces<br>
>> created by MS institutions, it is possible that powerful governmental and<br>
>> corporate actors can make deals contrary to the interests of Internet users.<br>
>> MS processes must incorporate and institutionalize concepts of due process,<br>
>> separation of powers and user's inalienable civil and political rights.<br>
>><br>
>> Milton L. Mueller<br>
>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies<br>
>> Internet Governance Project<br>
>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://blog.internetgovernance.org/">http://blog.internetgovernance.org</a><br>
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