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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 27 October 2012 06:39 AM,
      Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<br>
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      <div>So governments are the only legitimate stakeholders in
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    I always have a problem with considering governments as stakeholders
    ( which kind of proposition is one of the principal democratic
    defect in MS theory). Yes, they are inadequately representative,
    some more inadequately than others, and some hardly representative
    at all. But that is the measure and scale I see governments on, and
    that is the democratic problem to address; how to improve, and if
    necessary, complement their representativity. <br>
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    On the other hand, if I begin to consider government, say my
    government, as one stakeholder, whereby I as a part of some other
    group would be another stakeholder, I am on a very problematic
    ground. I have admitted that 'my government' (defined as the
    government of the political entity which I can be considered to
    primarily belong) is, even normatively, expected to have 'its own'
    interests, other that of its constituents like me. And that having
    such 'own interests', whatever it means, is in quite fine,
    theoretically. To that extent I have regressed on, or in fact lost,
    the 'representativity' problematisation stated above. <br>
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      <div> I don't think you can just wave away the practical problems
        with this - the democratic deficits in all intergovernmental
        bodies, and the fact that there are transnational
        (border-crossing) interests that governments have no democratic
        mandate to take into account - so even in theory, they are not
        adequate representatives of the public interest.</div>
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    These are regular and well known problems with democracy, attempted
    to be addressed by deepening democracy. There is a great amount of
    literature and developing sets of practices within the arena of
    democracy in this regard. The solution to these problems was never
    seen to require bringing big business along to become equivalent
    stakeholders as governments and others. This is an illegitimate
    innovation of MSism in IG.<br>
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    parminder<br>
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                                    Jeremy Malcolm<br>
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