<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Norbert Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nhklein@gmx.net" target="_blank">nhklein@gmx.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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No. <br>
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There is not only ONE stakeholder who becomes THE legislator - but
there are MULTI stakeholders. In the absence and impossibility of
taking universal votes on IG issues, I am not surprised about - and
I share - the opinion of many that multi-stakeholder systems are the
most practical ones that avoid that ONE stakeholder decides
everything, and gives many opinions access to public discussion,
even while decisions are organized not as a result of a vote in a
multi-stakeholder forum.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div></blockquote><div><br>The critical - and illegitimate - move in the above is to redefine democratically elected representatives as merely ONE stakeholder among many. This radically demotes the only legitimate form of governance - those that derive their authority from the consent of the governed via elections - to just one voice among many (undemocratic) voices. <br>
<br>Yes, there are world governments that are not democratically elected so I suppose this is one throws the democratic baby out with the undemocratic bathwater in favor of an almost entirely undemocratic MS government system, which is now called "governance" to effectively disguise its true nature. As with all systems of government, those that like their chances in the undemocratic system tend very highly to support it for all the "practical" reasons Norbert Klein refers to in his use of the word "practical" above.<br>
<br>Paul Lehto, J.D. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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Norbert Klein<br>
Phnom Penh/Cambodia <br></font></span><div class="im">
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<blockquote type="cite">and dispense with all public elections and not only
write the laws but pass them, enforce them, and in some cases even
set up courts of arbitration that are usually conditioned on
waiving the right to go to the court system set up by democracies.<br>
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A vote is just a minimum requirement of justice. Without a vote,
law is just force inflicted by the wealthy and powerful.
Multistakeholderism is a coup d'etat against democracy by those
who would merely be lobbyists in a democratic system. So yes, I
think it is misleading at best to use the word "democratic" in
reference to multistakeholder systems.<br>
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Paul R. Lehto, J.D.
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