Dear All,<br><br>I have been closely following the conversations thats going on about this topic. Thanks to those who have replied or following this discussion. I completely agree with Chaitanya's point. Also, thanks to Ian Peter for the article by Tim Wu, that truly outlines a possible solution.<br>
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As advocates of free and open Internet that serves the good of humanity, global Internet Society and IGC can come together and play our roles. We can definitely provide a join statement about the issue and we can start a working group who will work together to devise a possible solution. Let us put forward our names (or chapters) who wants to work together.<br>
<br>Thanks<br>Faisal<br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Ian Peter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">In this context people might find this article by Tim Wu interesting in that it outlines some of the current Google/You Tube principles and suggests improvements based on a Wikipedia style model<br>
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<a href="http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/107404/when-censorship-makes-sense-how-youtube-should-police-hate-speech#" target="_blank">http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/107404/when-censorship-makes-sense-how-youtube-should-police-hate-speech#</a><br>
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Ian Peter<br>
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<hr align="CENTER" size="3" width="95%"><b>From: </b>Chaitanya Dhareshwar <<a href="http://chaitanyabd@gmail.com" target="_blank">chaitanyabd@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b><<a href="http://governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>, Chaitanya Dhareshwar <<a href="http://chaitanyabd@gmail.com" target="_blank">chaitanyabd@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:29:58 +0530<br>
<b>To: </b><<a href="http://governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a href="http://salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="http://tapani.tarvainen@effi.org" target="_blank">tapani.tarvainen@effi.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [governance] Bangladesh Govt blocks YouTube<br>
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I think we all agree<br>
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1. Freedom of speech is important<br>
2. What is said must be carefully said - if it's likely to hurt the sentiments of the masses ("perceived compliance") something should be done to prevent that hurt sentiment - strongest being censorship (but what other measures could be used? - as Riaz said 'Reasonable' measures)<br>
3. Service providers like youtube (google) that have a large reach and huge client base should consider possible methods to prevent hate/racist/etc messages (measures werent mentioned - we could work on this)<br>
4. Governments need to know there are measures (point 2 & 3) that can be used without opting for censorship - as Faisal said we need to do our part on this or Governments will probably opt for blanket censorship<br>
5. Violence and censorship are not viable solutions - the damage is just too great<br>
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-C<br>
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <<a href="http://salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="http://tapani.tarvainen@effi.org" target="_blank">tapani.tarvainen@effi.org</a>> wrote:<br>
</span></font><blockquote><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">On Sep 19 16:26, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro (<a href="http://salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>) wrote:<br>
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> > I thought the topic was a possible caucus statement on the censorship<br>
> > of youtube, and I've tried to stick to that.<br>
> > And if it hasn't become clear yet, I would support a statement<br>
> > condemning violence but not one demanding censorship.<br>
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> @ Tapani there was never any discussion on demanding censorship<br>
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I must have misunderstood some messages, then.<br>
My apologies for all concerned.<br>
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We are all advocates of an open and free internet at least I think we are. Developing a statement will help to give us an opportunity to craft messages about our position in the midst of the turmoil. How we wordsmith would be collaborative but first it has to resonate within the IGC. If the general consensus is not to develop a statement, then we won't.<br>
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