<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div class="im"><div><br></div></div>If you say vagina on FaceBook, do police come to your place in the middle of the night, toss you in jail, and throw away the key? Do they harass your friends and family and anyone else who's been associated with you? And are you unable to read about vaginas anywhere else on the net because they they get hypersensitive about what's on their site due to government pressures?</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>According to official numbers, which are probably underestimated, four women per hour are victims of gender-biased violence in my country, especially sexual violence. This type of violence stems from conservative values, from patriachalism, from an attempt to deny women the right to freely express their sexuality. These conservative values are being reinforced and made "natural" by policies adopted by companies like FB and Apple. So don't tell me that this private censorship is a fact without real, concrete and painful consequences only because the world media has chosen to place the spotlight on the several (horrible and unacceptable) cases about political censorship, and not on violence against women. </div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div class="im"><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>and, in my opinion, fruitless debate. Ask any woman who has been engaged in activism on sexual and reproductive rights the importance of this globally omnipresent company's censorship on the word "vagina". </div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>I certainly agree it's dumb. Why not try to mobilize FB users who care about this and start a dialogue, put some pressure on FB?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Trying, including here :) </div>
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<div><br></div><div>In addition, in my opinion, private censorship can be much more dangerous exactly because they do not come from imposition (rough power), but from soft power. To organize and resist soft power and to distinguish where "the enemy lies" is much harder. Conservative ideas get embedded in our minds before we have the chance to question them. It is certainly easier to identify that "chinese firewall is bad". </div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>I don't think it is conservative to point out that people are rotting in jails and otherwise seriously repressed by that firewall and actions like it.</div></div></blockquote><div>
Not at all what I meant. Conservative ideas = aforementioned conservative values. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div class="im">
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<div><br></div><div>I hope we learn to split our attention among these important cases of censorship more wisely.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>Agreed</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Then we agree to agree :) </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br></div><div>Best </div><div><br></div><div>Bill<div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote type="cite">
<div><div><br></div><div>Marília</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:24 PM, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Maybe because the cases pale in comparison to the types of repression said FoE fighters tend to focus on, and because people can mobilize to redress them if they care enough without having to resort to intergovernmental politics?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><div><div><br>On Sep 16, 2012, at 21:07, Marilia Maciel <<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div>More censorship. From Apple, this time. I wonder why FoE fighters do not seem to care as much when censorship comes from the private sector, which has a much more subtle (and efficient) way to affect standards of right, wrong and morality.<br>
<br><div><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/sep/13/naomi-wolf-vagina-apple-itunes-censors" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/sep/13/naomi-wolf-vagina-apple-itunes-censors</a><br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>A funnier way to continue the discussion about FB policy and their awkward views on nudity.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/cartoonists/2012/09/nipplegate-why-the-new-yorker-cartoon-department-is-about-to-be-banned-from-facebook.html?currentPage=all" target="_blank">http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/cartoonists/2012/09/nipplegate-why-the-new-yorker-cartoon-department-is-about-to-be-banned-from-facebook.html?currentPage=all</a></div>
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