<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>But it is out of scope, irrelevant, or am I wrong?<br><br>...,...</div><div><br>On 12 Sep 2012, at 10:07 PM, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <<a href="mailto:apisan@unam.mx">apisan@unam.mx</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>I'm glad to see IT4Change decided to submit a comment on new gTLD strings along the lines they had previously discussed here. Kudos to Parminder for becoming a participant. </div>
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<div>There is a response to it in <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/newgtldrg/multiple-strings-by-IT-for-change_OG">https://community.icann.org/display/newgtldrg/multiple-strings-by-IT-for-change_OG </a></div>
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<div>"<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/~evan.leibovitch" class="url fn confluence-userlink userlink-1" data-username="evan.leibovitch" title="" data-user-hover-bound="true" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; color: rgb(60, 120, 181); text-decoration: none; outline: none; vertical-align: middle; ">Evan
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On a personal level, I am extremely sympathetic to, and agree with many of, the concerns expressed in the objection by "IT for Change". I could easily see myself advocating for its policy goals. However, given the current process it is extremely doubtful that
this objection is in scope, and it contains some factual errors in its assumptions:</p>
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Most specifically, this gTLD expansion program does not mark the introduction of strings longer than three characters, but is rather a massive expansion of an existing program. The group did not seem to have a problem with the existing use of ".aero", ".name"
and ".museum", therefore the principle of objecting to all strings longer than three characters has long been mooted. The relative failure to date of three-letter TLDs such as ".pro" and ".biz" indicate that three-letter TLDs did not provide the level of domain
expansion/relief that appears to be sought.</p>
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Furthermore, this objection appears not to be against any single application but indeed against all applications for strings that are dictionary words or longer than three characters. This is far too broad an objection to be applicable for the ALAC-driven review
process; indeed, it indicates an objection to policy as opposed to any specific application. While I share the concerns and have expressed many myself, the ability to affect gTLD expansion policy in this direction is also long passed. Without claims of offensiveness
or community harm caused by any specific strings, the gTLD review process really will be unable to properly evaluate this objection.</p>
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And finally, there is something puzzling and inconsistent regarding the objection to monopolizing words at the top level of domains but not at lower levels. For instance, why is single ownership of the "book" TLD more objectionable than single ownership of
"<a href="http://book.com">book.com</a>"? Arguably, if domains such as "<a href="http://book.com">book.com</a>" and "book.co.in" (etc) were not allowed to be privately owned and monopolized, and the domains could be used by multiple book-related destinations, there would be no need for the expansion happening now.
Without previous objection to private ownership of common words at lower levels, there is less justification (and less credibility) to now object to private ownership at the top level."</p>
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<div>A thing of beauty, this multistakeholder open participatory model.</div>
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<div>Yours,</div>
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<div>Alejandro Pisanty<br>
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