<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>Parminder,</div><div><br></div><div>On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:21 PM, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Verdana">I will cut out both the chaff and the detail, sticking to the main
issue we are discussing here. </font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Actually, I was attempting to understand the rationale someone might use to assert ICANN is not subject to US law since you stated ICANN apologists did this, but I get that you don't want to talk about your earlier statement.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Verdana">This to me is a convincing
case that we should develop and propose a clear alternative for
CIR management that is not dependent on the laws and executive
authority of one country. <br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I suspect many, if not all, of the folks you deride as "status quoists" would simply respond with "great idea, now where's that proposal for a clear alternative again?" </div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Verdana">Basically, in the circumstances, the only option is to base ICANN
on international law, with a host country agreement and immunities
for its functions vis a vis its physical location. </font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>As this is not my area of expertise, can you point to a similar case where a private organization has been based on international law and granted immunities? I'm curious as to how such organizations originated and evolved.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Verdana">And the only
way to make international law is for all countries to get together
and make it, while it being a fully open and participative process
for everyone else.</font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I thought most (all?) international law was the result of treaties between governments which may or may not be the result of "a fully open and participative process for everyone else". In fact, my impression has been that most international law was sort of the opposite of "fully open and participative".</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>-drc</div><div><br></div></div><br></body></html>