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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What was that about the US judicial system…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.newser.com/story/152658/judge-tax-hike-needed-to-fight-un-in-us-revolution.html?utm_source=9at9&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20120823">http://www.newser.com/story/152658/judge-tax-hike-needed-to-fight-un-in-us-revolution.html?utm_source=9at9&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20120823</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(Just wait until the discover the Internet in Texas…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tiny URL <a href="http://tinyurl.com/craqscm">http://tinyurl.com/craqscm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dominique Lacroix<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br><b>Cc:</b> McTim; parminder<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Tangential (On Exceptionalism Wikileaks) America's vassal acts decisively and illegally<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear McTim,<br><br>I would not like to hurt anyone on this list, but, beside considerations of legitimacy, I fear that placing Broadway in Ukraine in a 1930 items database is not yet completely a proof of readiness to govern the world. Is it?<br><br>(<a href="http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/290">http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/290</a>)<br><br>Best,<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Dominique Lacroix<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Société européenne de l'Internet<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.ies-france.eu">http://www.ies-france.eu</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>+33 (0)6 63 24 39 14<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>Le 23/08/12 17:24, McTim a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:43 AM, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Monday 20 August 2012 07:52 PM, Dominique Lacroix wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>I recall the proposal of Viviane Reding in 2009, when she was commissioner for Information Society and Media at the European Commission:<br><a href="http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/09/696&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en" target="_blank">http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/09/696&format=HTML&aged=0&language=EN&guiLanguage=en</a><br><br>Now she is vice-president and commissioner responsible for Justice, Fundamental rights and Citizenship.<br><br>Parminder, please, do you envision things in a similar way?<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes. India's <a href="http://www.itforchange.net/sites/default/files/ITfC/india_un_cirp_proposal_20111026.pdf" target="_blank">CIRP proposal</a> is very similar. Only better developed, and with clear multistakeholder input systems. With a few differences, India's propose a body inside the UN, and the European Commission proposal, one outside. India proposes 50 country members, and European Commission’s proposal 12. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>John, please, what do you think about Mrs Reding's proposal?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes, I would also like to know... You asked for alternatives on the table, and here are two.<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There are more than 2. A free-floating ICANN independent of nation state oversight is far preferable to a something where CS gives up its current active role in decision making to gov'ts.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Why would we want to do that?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>