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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #000000;font-size: 10pt;">Recalling I am not a lawyer but play one on the Internet:<br>
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Amending Milton's statement:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If there was someone willing and able to challenge ICANN’s decision to award .xxx on antitrust grounds in Europe, or in India, (or anywhere) then an adverse
decision in a U.S., (Belgian or Australian court) (c)ould make European or Indian law “applicable” to an ICANN decision.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(Not that I am encouraging lawsuits. But with offices in Brussels and Sydney listed as ICANN contact locations, not to mention staffers elsewhere, then ICANN is subject to other national legal regimes already. Certainly the EU has not
been shy about enforcing competition policy actions on US HQ'd companies, in European courts. Even if in theory US courts and Department of Justice should get first crack at ICANN when anti-competitive actions are alleged.)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Let me say that I think this antitrust challenge has no merit and will not go anywhere.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(Of course, not only the present case, but the merits under any legal regime of a hypothetical suit is beyond my forecasting powers.
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<p class="MsoNormal">But not Milton's. ; ) +2 Lee<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">This is a problem, not with the US, but with nation-states’ territorial jurisdiction exerting control over the internet.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">+2 <br>
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<div style="direction: ltr;" id="divRpF421537"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] on behalf of McTim [dogwallah@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org; Milton L Mueller<br>
<b>Cc:</b> parminder; Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Big Porn v. Big Web Ruling Could Spell Trouble for ICANN / was Re: new gTLDs<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Actually, Parminder you are confusing different things.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If there was someone willing and able to challenge ICANN’s decision to award .xxx on antitrust grounds in Europe, or in India, and ICM Registry were domiciled
in Europe or India, respectively, then an adverse decision would make European or Indian law “applicable” to an ICANN decision.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">This is a problem, not with the US, but with nation-states’ territorial jursidcition exerting control over the internet.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Let me say that I think this antitrust challenge has no merit and will not go anywhere.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div>that sums it up nicely.</div>
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Cheers,<br>
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McTim<br>
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
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