<div>Why 303 mil?? Why not 666 mil to reflect the "true nature" (kidding)</div><div> </div><div>-C<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM, michael gurstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote"><div lang="EN-US" vlink="purple" link="blue" bgcolor="white">
<div><p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><br>Begin forwarded message:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> David Farber <<a href="mailto:dave@farber.net" target="_blank">dave@farber.net</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> August 17, 2012 9:02:18 AM EDT<br><b>To:</b> "ip" <<a href="mailto:ip@listbox.com" target="_blank">ip@listbox.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> <b>[IP] State Department Wants You on ITAC Advisory, Opens All ITU docs</b><br>
<b>Reply-To:</b> <a href="mailto:dave@farber.net" target="_blank">dave@farber.net</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Begin forwarded message:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:13.5pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:13.5pt">Dave Burstein <<a href="mailto:daveb@dslprime.com" target="_blank">daveb@dslprime.com</a>></span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:13.5pt">Subject: State Department Wants You on ITAC Advisory, Opens All ITU docs</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:13.5pt">Date: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:13.5pt">August 17, 2012 8:54:53 AM EDT</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:13.5pt">To: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:13.5pt">Dave Farber <<a href="mailto:dave@farber.net" target="_blank">dave@farber.net</a>></span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Dave</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">I don't often send my reporting for the list, but I think this one may interest people. Any American interested in the ITU/WCIT governing the net debate should join the mailing list of State Department International Telecommunications Advisory Committee. </span><span style="background:white;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Simply send an email to join </span><a href="mailto:ITAC_Listserve_Requests@state.gov" target="_blank"><span style="background:white;color:rgb(27,87,177);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none">ITAC_Listserve_Requests@state.</span></a><a href="mailto:ITAC_Listserve_Requests@state.gov" target="_blank"><span style="background:white;color:rgb(27,87,177);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt;text-decoration:none">gov </span></a><span style="background:white;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">and you automatically have access to ITAC</span><span style="background:yellow;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">.</span><span style="background:white;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background:white;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> Until recently, I was typically the only person to speak up at meetings who wasn't government or with strong dorporate ties. But they've now decided to reach out, looking to make the "multi-stakeholder" model more democratic. Anyone with questions can email me offlist adn I'll point them in the right direction. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background:white;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> It's an opportunity to have influence beyond just the usual talk. db</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p style="background:white" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://fastnetnews.com/policy/177-p/4826-itu-secrecy-disappearing-as-us-itac-open-to-all" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">http://fastnetnews.com/policy/177-p/4826-itu-secrecy-disappearing-as-us-itac-open-to-all</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><div align="center"><table style="width:90%" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="90%"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:1.5pt"><p style="line-height:14.8pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:11.5pt">ITU Secrecy Disappearing as U.S. ITAC Open to All<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td></tr><tr><td style="padding:1.5pt" valign="top"><p style="line-height:14.8pt;margin-right:11pt;margin-bottom:0pt;margin-left:0in"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Join me and make a difference. 303,000,000 Americans have just been offered access to the notoriously secret ITU WCIT documents. Just join ITAC, the State Department International Telecommunications Advisory Committee, and enjoy access. “It takes a simple email to Mr. Julian Minard, with a request to be placed on the ITAC listserv, based on some material interest in a given topic,” Paul Najarian of State writes. Simply send an email to join <a href="mailto:ITAC_Listserve_Requests@state.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(27,87,177);text-decoration:none">ITAC_Listserve_Requests@state.</span></a><a href="mailto:ITAC_Listserve_Requests@state.gov" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(27,87,177);text-decoration:none">gov </span></a>and you automatically have access to ITAC<span style="background:yellow">.</span> That's actually proving true, and email me if you need details how to make this work for you. Until now, no one knew about it so almost no one applies except insiders. It’s really that simple. I’ve recommended three people and they were all treated respectfully.</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:9.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><p style="line-height:14.8pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> Uncle Sam wants you, as Ambassador Terry Kramer makes clear below and confirmed to me in a brief phone call. “We welcome all interested stakeholders to participate in our WCITpreparatory process and help the U.S. Government form positions in advance of the conference. We solicit this input and feedback through the United States International Telecommunications Advisory Committee (ITAC).” His colleague, Ambassador Phil Verveer testified to Congress, that ITAC is “open to all interested parties to review and advise on the regional and national contributions to WCIT as they are submitted.” <br>
To my amazement, the discussions are substantive. With almost no one outside the system, it's become a convenient forum for State to share information with NTIA, FCC, and others, as well as two dozen or so corporate people who are on the inside. So it's actually a useful point to express your opinion. Being on ITAC gives you access to the main ITU and WCIT documents, along with a painful number of exceedingly boring emails. The meetings are in D.C. at State and generally have call-ins. <br>
Until recently, I was the only person speaking at most meetings who wasn’t part ofgovernment or have strong corporate ties. No one else spoke up, for example, when U.S.proposals for NGN resembled a blueprint for the Great Firewall of China. (Our security agencies have similar requirements.)<br>
I wrote that the ITU wanted to open the documents <a href="http://fastnetnews.com/itu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(27,87,177);text-decoration:none">http://fastnetnews.com/itu/</span></a>186-i/4822-itu-qmembers-free-to-publish-any-documentsq-and-they-will-im-told based on ITU sources and some comments from Europe. I had no expectation the U.S. would join actively, but that’s exactly what Ambassador Kramer promises<br>
<br>“Recently, the ITU Council announced its decision to make public one of the summary documents of proposals to amend the International Telecommunications Regulations. In addition, at the recent meeting in Geneva, the Secretary General stressed that “all ITU members have full access to all WCIT-12 documents and can share them within their constituencies.”</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:9.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p style="line-height:14.8pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><br>Accordingly, I want to take a moment to update you on the U.S. Government’s approach to stakeholder participation and input for the December conference and also my decision on how we will share and distribute WCIT documents going forward. <br>
First, we welcome all interested stakeholders to participate in our WCIT preparatory process and help the U.S. Government form positions in advance of the conference. We solicit this input and feedback through the United States International Telecommunications Advisory Committee (ITAC). I believe that the ITAC process is critically important in helping the U.S. Government convene the type of open, public, and necessary consultations from all stakeholders that helps strengthen our positions in advance of the WCIT. The ITAC has advised the Department of State on U.S. participation in international telecommunications treaty organizations such as the International Telecommunication Union for decades and has, accordingly, been critical in the preparation of prior U.S. positions for meetings of international treaty organizations, developing and coordinating proposed contributions to international meetings and submitting them to the Department of State for consideration. For the WCIT, the ITAC will continue to serve this critical role. Therefore, we welcome any person and any and all organizations, whether corporate or non-profit, to participate in the ITAC if they would like to assist with the WCIT preparatory process.<br>
Second, all WCIT preparatory documents – including revisions of the TD-62 compilations of Member States proposals, the final report of the Council Working Group, and Member State proposals – have been and will continue to be made available to interested ITAC member. It is imperative that we ensure full consideration of a WCIT proposal’s impact on economic growth, the Internet’s openness, and the world at large and this is best done through the adoption of open and transparent processes that allow for wide consultation. Thus, we will continue to share these WCIT documents with stakeholder so that they can provide more informed views and help us develop positions that reflect the input of the diverse range of interests in the United States. <br>
Starting this week, I will proactively communicate our positions on participation and document availability to underscore the US Government’s commitment to<br>transparency. <br>Terry D. Kramer<br>U.S. Ambassador<br>Head of U.S. Delegation’ </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:9.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><div><p style="background:white" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p style="background:white" class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://fastnetnews.com/policy/177-p/4827-state-department-actively-reaching-out-to-public-knowledge-a-others" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">http://fastnetnews.com/policy/177-p/4827-state-department-actively-reaching-out-to-public-knowledge-a-others</span></a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p style="background:white" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><table style="background:rgb(247,247,247);width:660.6pt" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="881">
<tbody><tr><td style="border-width:medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none solid;border-color:currentColor currentColor rgb(207,207,207);padding:0in;width:100%;text-transform:capitalize" width="100%"><p style="line-height:14pt" class="MsoNormal">
<b><span style="color:rgb(142,180,62);font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:12.5pt"><a href="http://fastnetnews.com/policy/177-p/4827-state-department-actively-reaching-out-to-public-knowledge-a-others" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(142,180,62);font-size:10.5pt;text-decoration:none">State Department Actively Reaching Out To Public Knowledge & Others</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
</td></tr></tbody></table><p style="background:white" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><table style="background:rgb(247,247,247);width:660.6pt" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="881">
<tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in 0in 2.25pt 15pt;min-height:35px" valign="top"><p style="line-height:14pt;margin-bottom:7.5pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(209,209,209);font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:7.5pt">Monday, 30 July 2012 12:51<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</td></tr><tr><td style="padding:0in" valign="top"><div style="margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:6pt"><p style="line-height:14pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Looking for civil society support at ITU. “The USG did reach out to us and that is good,” Rashmi Rangnath of Public Knowledge emails. “They are certainly interested in hearing what we have to say.” Another key D.C. public interest group confirmed to me State was reaching out to them as well. </span><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:8.5pt"><br>
</span><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">AT ITU and WCIT discussions, the U.S. "multi-stakeholder" model is just a veneer on corporate interests. A Verizon lobbyist sits on the board of ISOC, where’s he joined by a Comcast engineer; Comcast went to court to oppose even the very weak U.S. neutrality rules and led a massive lobbying campaign against neutrality. Another Verizon lobbyist is on the official U.S. delegation to WTPF. The U.S. ITAC until recently had dozens of corporate representatives and essentially no one from civil society.</span><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:8.5pt"><br>
</span><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Terry Kramer, the head of the U.S. delegation to WCIT comes from Vodafone/Verizon. The State Department lead, Ambassador Phil Verveer, is a former Verizon/AT&T/USTA lawyer, although Verveer is rumored to be a lame duck these days. His telco ties certainly didn't hurt his chances for the job. Probably more important was that he and his wife were friends since college with Bill and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. </span><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:8.5pt"><br>
</span><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> U.S. credibility requires incorporating people like Gigi Sohn of Public Knowledge, </span><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:8.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u></font></span></p></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal">
-- <br>Editor, DSL Prime, Fast Net News and A Wireless Cloud<br>Author with Jennie Bourne DSL (Wiley, 2002) and Web Video: Making It Great, Getting It Noticed (Peachpit, 2008)<u></u><u></u></p></font></span></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(204,204,204) currentColor currentColor;padding:4pt 0in 0in"><table style="background:white;width:100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%">
<tbody><tr><td style="padding:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:7.5pt"><a title="Go to archives for ip" href="https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(102,153,51);text-decoration:none">Archives</span></a> </span><a title="RSS feed for ip" href="https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/1450589-af3bd21e" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(102,153,51);font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:7.5pt;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" alt="Description: https://www.listbox.com/images/feed-icon-10x10.jpg" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CD7DDC.10D69D70" width="10" height="10"></span></a><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";font-size:7.5pt">| <a title="" href="https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=1450589&id_secret=1450589-1f7df589" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(102,153,51);text-decoration:none">Modify</span></a> Your Subscription | <a title="" href="https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=1450589&id_secret=1450589-761cd533&post_id=20120817090224:C7F0CED2-E86B-11E1-A899-C1A1570A3DC2" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(102,153,51);text-decoration:none">Unsubscribe Now</span></a> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</td><td style="padding:0in" valign="top"><p style="text-align:right" class="MsoNormal" align="right"><a href="http://www.listbox.com/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"><img border="0" alt="Description: https://www.listbox.com/images/listbox-logo-small.png" src="cid:image002.png@01CD7DDC.10D69D70" width="152" height="19"></span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
</td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></font></span></div></blockquote></div></div><br>____________________________________________________________<br>
You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>
<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
To be removed from the list, visit:<br>
<a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br>
<br>
For all other list information and functions, see:<br>
<a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><br>
To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>
<a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br>
<br>
Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br>