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Well we have just had no oversight or deregulation or light touch
regulation in the financial sector... hows the crisis coming
along...<br>
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perhaps <a
href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/aug/10/google-algorithm-hollywood-lobbyists-copyright">this</a>
is an indication of a preview of forthcoming attractions... of such
views...<br>
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to put it in extremist positions, these "anarchic" solutions simply
mean self-supervision, which imho essentially is domination by the
big corporates... and given the tired discussions on MSG and the
role of corporates... 'nuf said... and no need to raise this tired
debate again... we can agree to disagree<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2012/08/13 02:24 AM, McTim wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 1:19 AM,
parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font face="Verdana">David<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Therefore an<br>
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(1) Internet Oversight Board (or as per Carlos's proposal a
International Internet Coordination and Evaluation Council )
takes over the oversight role over the CIR management system<br>
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<div>What about those of us who think that NO oversight is
needed?</div>
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(2) A UN Committee on Internet Related Policies takes up non
CIR general public policies, on the same pattern as OECD's
CICCP, whereby while today OECD makes general Internet
related policies that by default get applied to the whole
world, we have a similar committee but with all countries
represented doing EXACTLY the same work.... (I am unable to
see how one can object to this).<br>
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<div>What about those of us who do not want the OECD (or any
intergovernmental body) to be making Internet policy?</div>
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This is just a template to begun a serious discussion. As
long as, as you say, no one argues 'that things should
remain the same", we can together chart a path to the new
system. That is my change model. <br>
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<div>We have a "new system", it is significantly different than
what we had just a few years ago. The way of doing things is
changing by evolution, not revolution. I would urge you to
re-read Bill's long post in this thread with an open mind.
There are significant challenges to be faced in doing (1). </div>
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Cheers,<br>
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McTim<br>
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is.
A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
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