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Parmineder,
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<div>thanks to time-zone differences, Lee, Roland, Daniel, and McTim have already given you replies here which I think lead the question to exhaustion.</div>
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<div>I'm also taking two points from Fahd's latest intervention: I have pared off all previous email in this response, and agree that we have come, or are close to have come, to a quite converged point beyond which we may be counting angels on a pin.</div>
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<div>We need the mental powers involved and the bandwidth of all (including layer 8 bandwidth) for other issues. The cost of opportunity of this discussion may be about to become too high.</div>
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<b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 08 de agosto de 2012 06:16<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [governance] India's communications minister - root server misunderstanding (still...)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday 08 August 2012 12:35 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:<br>
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<div>it may be useful to separate your problem into two parts:</div>
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<div>1. authorization for changes in the root;</div>
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Thanks for the kind advice, Alex. In fact, I have insisted repeatedly that I am only dealing with the second part as below. The first part was dealt in an earlier discussion in June with the subject line 'oversight'.<br>
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<div>2. operation of the independent root servers, including their submission or not to an outrageously arbitrary and deletereous change in the root.</div>
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Yes, this alone is the issue under consideration here.<br>
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<div>That, I think, will help you parse the apparent contradictions. We all have a problem with the first's asymmetric-power situation; the second is a fail-safe mechanism for the potential excesses of the first.
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So you agree that independence of root server operators indeed serves as a 'fail-safe mechanism for the potential excesses' of the unilateral root changing power with the US.
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In that case, you may agree that making MORE sure that the root operators are MORE independent of US gov will make the system MORE fail-safe or capture-resistant. In practical terms I mean what if instead of the present distribution of root server operators,
9 in the US and 3 in US friendly countries, we have these servers distributed in a more geopolitically equitous manner - as I suggested, for a start RIRs of Africa, LA and Asia Pacific get one each, and perhaps one more in each of these continents at a reputed
public technical institute. What do you say?<br>
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Lets first agree on the need and desirability of such re-allocation, before we go to the question of how to do it.
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<div>(Fail-safe does not mean "it cannot fail"; it means "if it fails it devolves to a safe state", sort of when well designed elevators go out of electrical power they don't sink to the bottom and crash, nor just get stuck; they fall to the next floor down
and open the doors)<br>
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<div>(As a side: it may be valuable for IT4Change to recruit the assistance of some Internet engineers, for example by forming an all-volunteer Technical Advisory Board, if you don't find this too meddlesome. I've seen such an Rx work wonders in other, similar
organizations elsewhere and it's a win-win. If too meddlesome please ignore. Again, happy to be corrected by those more knowledgeable.)</div>
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