<p dir="ltr">There also something called giving the wrong idea or giving ideas. Some countries like following by example.</p>
<p dir="ltr">On a desperate and separate note, some countries nearer to my part of the world have quietly put in policies quietly through non public directives for censorship, filtering, blocking and DPI surveillance wahay before they announced preparation for WCIT/ITRs.</p>
<p dir="ltr">For us from this part of the world, the real threat is no more the WCIT/ITR recommendations but what are countries doing prior to influence and ascertain their positions and proposals.</p>
<p dir="ltr">We can rant about IGF's lack of outcomes, IBSA, SOPA, PIPA, ACTA, UN Centric Internet Control and Policing, ITU and WCIT/ITRs, educating ministers, unilateral propaganda behind a limited IG issue but the reality is that Internet Access Denied is happening behind the curtains, a submarine cable termination points on to the national trunks, US and Canadian companies are selling heaps of surveillance software and hardware for DPI in the name of cyber security but we are engrossed in gacs and lack of routing knowledge. </p>
<p dir="ltr">When do we set our concerns straight?<br><br></p>
<p dir="ltr">Fouad Bajwa</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 4, 2012 2:05 AM, "Roland Perry" <<a href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com">roland@internetpolicyagency.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
In message <<a href="mailto:855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01ECD21DCB2F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu" target="_blank">855077AC3D7A7147A7570370CA01E<u></u>CD21DCB2F@SUEX10-mbx-10.ad.<u></u>syr.edu</a>>, at 18:39:46 on Fri, 3 Aug 2012, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>> writes<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
You don't think the facets of the Internet that the ITU might want to<br>
control are wider than the rather small subset dealt with by ICANN?<br>
<br>
Settlement peering and cybersecurity, for example.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Roland, this may come across as a back-handed comment but I can't<br>
think of a better way to put it, and my concern is to "put your<br>
heart at ease."<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Haven't we had this conversation before? There's a difference between "want to control" and "will control" or even "do a useful job if put in control".<br>
<br>
ps. Regarding settlement peering, look at D.50 for an agenda that just won't die.<br>
-- <br>
Roland Perry<br>
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