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Fahd,
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<div>I'll try to be brief and objective in replying:</div>
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<div id="divRpF933955" style="direction: ltr; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2" color="#000000"><b>Desde:</b> Fahd A. Batayneh [fahd.batayneh@gmail.com]<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> sábado, 04 de agosto de 2012 13:13<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch<br>
<b>CC:</b> IG Caucus<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [governance] Re: [Arab IGF] ICANN to get $8 Million More from New .com Deal<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Alejandro, while I have no negative stance against the ICANN board or any board member in particular, there remains two unanswered questions for me:<br>
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<li>How did the board approve .xxx while the community was against it. </li></ol>
<div>The Board I served on rejected it. </div>
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<div>The decision-review process which .xxx won leaves very little room to do other than allowing .xxx to go forward. </div>
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<div>What do you think would have been a worse outcry against ICANN? for going forward following its established rules, or for going against them? </div>
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<li>How did the board approve the New gTLD program while many answers and concerns were unanswered. Even after the program was launched, the "TAS glitch" caused lots of controversy. Even worst, ICANN is talking about the next New gTLD round (initially planed
for 2013) when current issues have not been resolved yet.<br>
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What makes things even worst is that many board members (in their capacity as employers of their respective firms) benifited their respective employers with the approval of the New gTLD program. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">AP: this blank statement is wrong. A number of people who would have been in that situation recused themselves from voting and even discussing the decisions of the new gTLD program that would have meant a benefit for them or their employers. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Even more, some past board members jumped to greener shores with business ventures elsewhere (and I am sure you know what I exactly mean). <br>
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AP: strictly I can only guess and say that there is at least one prominent instance which I have deplored deeply. Sala has already pointed to the strong community reaction and how it's causing better conflict of interest rules to be enacted, and a higher level
of community vigilance to appear.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">You know conflict of interest and duties towards the organization vary a lot cross-culturally. I am in favor of great clarity so people know where Directors etc. stand when they vote, and when they shape a decision. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">The argument has been made that certain stricter rules "are US-centric" and should not apply, say, to French nationals. Maybe someone in this list can explore that further. I don't really buy it and find the argument disgraceful. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hope this is useful. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Alejandro Pisanty</div>
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After all, shouldn't the board work in the best of the "Public Interest"?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apisan@unam.mx" target="_blank">apisan@unam.mx</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Riaz,<br>
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I can tell you from my eight years tenure in the ICANN Board that once the sustainability of the organization was achieved, the terms of contracts like the ones with Verisign were analyzed by the Board on a very principled basis. Their budgetary impact for
ICANN itself was never a primary consideration.<br>
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>From knowledge of present Directors I tend to presume mostly a similar trend.<br>
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Enviado el: sábado, 04 de agosto de 2012 02:07<br>
Hasta: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; Fouad Bajwa<br>
Asunto: Re: [governance] Re: [Arab IGF] ICANN to get $8 Million More from New .com Deal<br>
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This can be understood in terms of path dependency as well as Public<br>
Choice theory... at some level of abstraction.<br>
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On 2012/08/03 02:48 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote:<br>
> The financial aspect and opportunities will always be there because at<br>
> the end of the day, we see a lot of stuff that inclines towards<br>
> benefiting the domain industry.<br>
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> Best<br>
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> Fouad<br>
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> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Fahd A. Batayneh<br>
> <<a href="mailto:fahd.batayneh@gmail.com" target="_blank">fahd.batayneh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <a href="http://domainincite.com/9845-icann-to-get-8-million-more-from-new-com-deal" target="_blank">
http://domainincite.com/9845-icann-to-get-8-million-more-from-new-com-deal</a><br>
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>> I wonder if this was the reason why ICANN renewed the .com agreement in<br>
>> favor of VeriSign Inc., causing lots of controversy and question marks<br>
>> within the ICANN community.<br>
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>> Fahd<br>
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