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<div>thanks for picking up this idea. I have no objection to using the Open Government Partnership standards but do have a couple reasons to prefer the ICANN ATRT (or other related) ones:</div>
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<div>1. the IGC professes to have intimate knowledge of all that is wrong with ICANN from innumerable angles. That deep knowledge would serve well as a tool to investigate the ITU's recent announcement and its materialization; </div>
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<div>2. ICANN - warts and all - has gone through a lot more development, including several reforms and many evaluations, while OGP is still largely untested;</div>
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<div>3. ICANN seems more relevant as a comparison since it deals with Internet-only issues, and makes decisions that are binding among its players. The OGP seems to be a bit more loose in this second respect.</div>
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<div>There is a simple structure in which you set up a list of organizations you want to compare and a set of criteria like democracy, participants' impact on decisions, procedures, access to documents, access to discussions, and mechanisms for review and redress
of decisions. You get a table with 5-7 columns and as many lines as organizations you include. You evaluate in successive iterations of increased refinement so you always have something usable in hand. </div>
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<div>Several different groups and approaches may start independently and compare notes. And as you say, a few graduate theses get written if you wish.</div>
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<b>Enviado el:</b> sábado, 14 de julio de 2012 08:48<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch; governance@lists.igcaucus.org; 'Izumi AIZU'<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> RE: [governance] Landmark decision by ITU Council on proposal for public consultation and open access<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">Good point Alejandro… to extend it a bit, I'm wondering whether we might rather begin a process of adopting the Open Government Partnership principles and
process <a href="http://www.opengovpartnership.org/" target="_blank">http://www.opengovpartnership.org/</a> here as benchmarks and something that the IGC might look to promote with other of the agencies with which it is in contact (the IGF being one…
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">The ICANN A&T Review may be rather more robust than the OGP one at this stage but the longer term OGP process is gathering a significant head of steam and
including international agencies within that process would be, I think, a significant step for forward for CS overall (no reason we couldn't include both as part of the review/benchmarking process you are suggesting, which BTW would make an excellent Master's
thesis or extended research essay for some appropriate grad student…</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch [mailto:apisan@unam.mx]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 13, 2012 11:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org; Izumi AIZU; Michael Gurstein<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] Landmark decision by ITU Council on proposal for public consultation and open access</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:black">a creative approach, and one which would speak for consistency in this community, would be to set up a benchmark and see how far the ITU complies with it as the process
takes place over the coming months.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:black">One particularly relevant benchmark would be the Accountability and Transparency Review of ICANN or related documents, mostly the updates on how ICANN has taken measures
to comply with the recommendations of the ATRT. See if non-governmental participants have access to key documents, access to discussions, the ability to organize themselves, and impact on decisions. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"; color:black">We all know that ICANN needs to improve in all these aspects but it's a good benchmark. I've once graded several organizations related to WSIS. It's a complex exercise
in evaluation but it can be done in a way that yields a few very clear results.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">Desde:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; color:black">
<a href="mailto:izumiaizu@gmail.com" target="_blank">izumiaizu@gmail.com</a> [izumiaizu@gmail.com] en nombre de Izumi AIZU [iza@anr.org]<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 14:49<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; Michael Gurstein<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [governance] Landmark decision by ITU Council on proposal for public consultation and open access</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Wow. Any comments for IGC to react to this decision? Welcome statement?
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2012</span><span style="font-family:"MS Mincho"; color:black">年</span><span style="color:black">7</span><span style="font-family:"MS Mincho"; color:black">月</span><span style="color:black">14</span><span style="font-family:"MS Mincho"; color:black">日土曜日</span><span style="color:black">
Michael Gurstein <a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">Landmark decision by ITU Council on proposal for public consultation and<br>
open access to key conference document: Online public platforms will be<br>
created to enable multi-stakeholder consultation....<br>
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<a href="http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2012/46.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2012/46.aspx</a><br>
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>> Izumi Aizu <<<br>
Institute for InfoSocionomics, Tama University, Tokyo<br>
Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita, <br>
Japan<br>
<a href="http://www.anr.org" target="_blank">www.anr.org</a></span></p>
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