<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">Dear
Parminder,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">Thank
you for considering my posts.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">I
can say it is not only Brazil who has been trying to make ITU’s processes more
transparent. In the case of WCIT, the United Arab Emirates themselves proposed
to ITU Council last week the open access to the conference’s documents. I
believe this move wouldn’t happen without civil society and media’s lobby, but the
goal might be achieved, anyway. (One can argue on the interests of UAE in doing
so, but it is hard to deny the efficacy of the host being the sponsor of this proposal.)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">The
rationale behind Brazil defending free access to ITU material (much broader
than WCIT docs) is also expressed here: <a href="http://economialegal.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/1952/">http://economialegal.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/1952/</a>.
Japan, Sweden, US and many other countries seem to share similar opinions, but
with different perspectives.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">First
of all, it is important to clarify that I work for Anatel (the Brazilian
telecom regulator), a frequent stakeholder at the ITU who is not usually
present at WSIS fora, IGF, ICANN, CSTD, UNGA, OECD and others.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">If
you’ve gone through the original Brazilian contribution (<a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13PREP-C-0009/en">WTPF-IEG/1/4</a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt">)<span style="background:white">, you might have noticed that we referred to some of
Kurbalija’s material. In particular, I have cited his views of a “narrow” vs
“broad” approach to IG. If one considers his several IG baskets, we could say
that the ITU has been working on IG issues for quite some time (if not, since
the Union’s creation). </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">Our
idea is to organize this IG debate within the ITU, and the establishment of its
own principles would be a good way to start. Like CGI.br, others have been this
have been doing this (</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt"><a href="http://igcaucus.org/links">http://igcaucus.org/links</a><span style="background:white">), so it shouldn’t be extremely hard to find reliable sources
for the job.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">When
we (Brazil) wrote this contribution, we did not think of the ITU as the place
to decide on global Internet related public policies global nor on “enhanced
cooperation”. In fact, there wasn’t a text for the Secretary General WTPF Report
yet. We didn’t discuss DNS management, scarce resources, numbering allocation
nor any specific IG issue. We just thought of a way of making the process more
transparent, considering all the misinformation we could find about ITU’s goals
on the IG. Why not to make it clear? Considering that the WTPF will count on
public attendance, it could be a useful environment. It is not a perfect
solution because the public might not have the right to speak (since this is a
decision from the 2010 Plenipotentiary Conference, it is hard to expect any
change now).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">FYI,
Sweden has been very active on the first meeting of CWG-Internet and raised
strong proposals in favor of “open consultations” with external stakeholders.
They propose that the open consultations do take place with the physical
presence of the stakeholders. Brazil and many others have supported this idea,
but it is uncertain to happen at the group’s second meeting.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">As I
mentioned, Brazil doesn’t see the CWG-Internet nor the ITU as the space for
“enhanced cooperation” at this moment. We haven’t discussed internally whether
CWG would compete with a UN CIRP or any other body. Anyway, I cannot guarantee
these concerns will not be brought by other countries.<span class="apple-converted-space"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">I
guess you’re right in your statements. And that is why I keep on arguing with
my national folks that that ignoring the ITU within the broader IG debate is
wrong. Denying its existence or technical and political influence will leads us
to uninformed decisions and an incomplete view of the global negotiation
scenario. In Brazil, we have been closer (then) and farther (now) from the ITU
on IG, and that might be the reason why we haven’t discussed the possibility of
taking the CWG as the target of “enhanced cooperation”. From my perspective, some
Brazilian relevant stakeholders strongly oppose to the ITU at any Internet
process on principle, and I believe this is a naïve standpoint.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">Anyway,
the CWG is still on its birth, with a long list of possible issues to approach.
The most important question is deciding upon the “open consultation” process
and the modality of external stakeholders inputs. I have just been informed
that Council decided that the CWG will </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt">hold online
consultations for all stakeholders only, instead of physical meetings. <span style="background:white"></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">Once
again I thank you for sharing your thoughts.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">Abraços,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:6pt 0cm 0.0001pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;background-color:white;background-repeat:initial initial">Sérgio</span></p></div><div><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2012/7/8 parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Dear Sergio,<br>
<br>
Thanks for sharing these documents, and for your overall efforts
to open ITU documents to the general public.<br>
<br>
I read Brazil's inputs to the ITU SG's report with great interest.
I have a specific question regarding it. In recommending to the
ITU that it develops its own principles for Internet governance,
and referring to the Brazilian principles in this regard, does
Brazil not look at the ITU as the place to discuss and decide on
global Internet related public policies, which is the definitional
mandate given by Tunis agenda to the process of 'enhanced
cooperation'? (Such is the work done by OECD's CCICP, e.g.
developing as it did recently Principles for Internet Policy
Making)<br>
<br>
If indeed Brazil (and the same question applies to other actors)
is now so intent to let ITU's CWG-Internet be that space of
'enhanced cooperation', any discussion on whether a UN CIRP (minus
any oversight role) for fulfilling the non CIR side of enhanced
cooperation mandate becomes, to that extent, redundant. As I read
WTFP documents, and I recommend others interested in the enhanced
cooperation also to read them, it is apparent that the ITU's
Council Working Group on International Internet Related Public
Policy Issues (CWG-Internet) seems poised to take up the role that
some envisaged for a UN CIRP like body (minus CIR oversight role).<br>
<br>
I know that CWG-Internet does not take binding decisions but has
only recommendatory role to the ITU Council. However CIRP was
supposed to have exactly an identical role vis a vis the UN GA,
which would have to follow up to make actual implementable
decisions etc. I see both ITU's CWG-Internet and UN CIRP having
more or less identical advisory and facilitative roles to
respective intergov decision making bodies. As one reads WTFP
documents, one sees that the envisaged subject areas for the two
entities (one existing and other proposed) is becoming
increasingly similar. <br>
<br>
I pose this question especially because Brazil has reserved its
judgement whether to support a UN CIRP like structure or not, and
I am trying to explore the implications of this position. If in
not supporting a CIRP like body one means just to let ITU's
CWG-Internet take up more or less exactly that work, it raises
some basic questions on the nature of reservations that Brazil,
and others in civil society (including from Brazil), had or have
vis a vis the CIRP proposal. Are the reservations really vis a vis
multistakeholderism, participative-ness and transparency as has
apparently looked to be the case? But how do these reservation
hold in encouraging, or even allowing, ITU's CWG-Internet to take
up more or less exactly the same role? <br>
<br>
The proposed design of </font><font face="Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif">UN CIRP is by far better on all these three counts (</font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">multistakeholderism,
participative-ness and transparency) than ITU's CWG-Internet.
Secondly, ITU is basically a body with a technical mandate, and
corresponding mindset, which is evident in its processes and
perspectives. It has no real background and expertise in social,
cultural, economic and political issues. Internet, especially from
civil society's point of view, should first be seen from social
etc angles, and ITU, in my view, is not the best place to do so.
Actors and institutions with generic social, cultural, economic
and political backgrounds are better placed to deal with global IG
and its wider public policy questions. These two sets of reasons
is why I prefer a UN CIRP like body to ITU's CWG-Internet, and I
am open to a discussion about the relative merits of the two.<br>
</font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br>
However, I can see now that the chances are that ITU's
CWG-Internet would take over the proposed role of CIRP in the area
of 'enhanced cooperation' as defined in the Tunis agenda. It may
be a creeping acquisition but it is well planned and resourced.
(Without going into the merits of it, Toure's team deserves
appreciation for such a good plan and its impeccable execution.)
ITU may even be able to bring more institutional resources and
certainly greater institutional focus to the 'enhanced
cooperation' function. Solid institutionalisation around this
function is clearly well on its way. (With WSIS forum and all,
also providing the otherwise missing social, economic, cultural
political basis.)<br>
<br>
I bring </font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">up </font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">this point because I believe
that in politics acts of omission are often as important as those
of commission. Civil society may need to make a practical choice;
Is ITU's CWG-Internet the right place for (non CIR oversight)
'enhanced cooperation' function or is a new more open and
participative body with an initial socio-economic-cultural focus
(like UN CIRP) a more appropriate body. In default of such a
resolution, we may simply be agreeing to ITU CWG-Internet takinge
up this role, which it clearly is taking up. <br>
<br>
Although, whether because it is being careful, at least in the
beginning, or becuase ITU by its nature focuses more on technical
issues, the list of issues proposed to be covered still are
*relatively* technical even when the express intent is to jump
headlong into the broad area of International Internet related
public policies. Now, if CWG-Internet is indeed going to be the
'enhanced cooperation' space, which to me looks increasingly
likely, I consider this narrow close-to-technical focus
unfortunate. To illustrate what I mean, OECD's Committee on ICCP
is right now discussing 'economics of personal data on the
Internet', which is one of the most key and formative factors and
features of what the Internet is and would be. I would like a
globally democratic space to discuss this all important global
public policy issue, but dont see a place to do so. Should this
issue finally somehow fit CWG-Internet's agenda? While its mandate
seems broad to include all global Internet public policy issues, I
do not see ITU's CWG-Internet as the best place for this
discussion. But if not here, then where? It is too important an
issue not be addressed globally.<br>
<br>
I also find it unfortunate that there is not much will on this
civil society like, I mean the IGC, to discuss enhanced
cooperation issue beyond the CIR oversight issue (on which we had
a very good discussion). As I have said, I find these larger
global Internet related public policy issues as of rather greater
significance that CIR oversight. However, there seems not much
interest here to discuss this more important part of enhanced
cooperation and its institutional gaps and requirements. We seem
to be too CIRs fixated.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
parminder <br>
<br>
</font></span></font><div><div class="h5"><br>
On Thursday 28 June 2012 10:36 PM, Sérgio Alves Jr. wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.itu.int/en/wtpf-13/Pages/ieg.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.itu.int/en/wtpf-13/Pages/ieg.aspx</a>
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<div>For the time being, most WTPF-13 docs are open.</div>
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<div>Abraços,</div>
<div>Sérgio<br>
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accordance with the <a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S11-CL-C-0102/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">Council
Decision 562</a>, the Secretary-General
will convene a balanced,<strong> informal
group of experts(IEG)</strong> - who are
active in preparing for the Forum in their
own country - to assist in the successive
stages of the preparatory process. The
proposed deadline for nominations for this
group of experts is 15 May 2012. The<strong> schedule </strong>for
publishing the Secretary-General’s report to
WTPF-13 is included in <a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-DM-CIR-01003/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">Circular
letter DM 12/1003. </a><br>
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<p style="font-size:9pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;line-height:12pt">A <strong>progress
report </strong>on the fifth World
Telecommunication/Information and
Communication Technology Policy Forum on
Internet-related public policy issues is
included in <a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-DM-CIR-01016/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">Circular
letter DM 12/1016</a>.</p>
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MEETING
<div><strong>5 June 2012, ITU
Headquarters, Geneva</strong></div>
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<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13IEG1-C-0001/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">WTPF-IEG/1/1</a>:
Draft Agenda<br>
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<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13PREP-R-0001/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">WTPF-IEG/1/2</a>:
First draft of Secretary-General's
report<br>
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<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13PREP-C-0010/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">WTPF-IEG/1/3</a>:
Comments from the Russian
federation on the First draft of
Secretary-General's report.<br>
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<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13PREP-C-0009/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">WTPF-IEG/1/4</a>:Comments
from Brazil on the First draft of
Secretary-General's report<br>
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<li> <a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13PREP-C-0008/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">WTPF-IEG/1/5</a>:Comments
from ARIN on the First draft of
Secretary-General's report<br>
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<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13PREP-C-0007/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">WTPF-IEG/1/6</a>:
Comments from the United States on
the First draft of
Secretary-General's report<br>
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<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13PREP-C-0011/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank"><font color="#0072bc">WTPF-IEG/1/7</font></a>:
Comments from Internet Society
(ISOC) <br>
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<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13IEG1-C-0002/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">WTPF-IEG/1/8</a>:
Invitation letter<br>
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<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13PREP-R-0002/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank"><strong>WTPF-IEG/1/9</strong></a><strong>: </strong><strong>Preliminary
Second Draft of the
Secretary-General’s Report<br>
<br>
</strong></li>
<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13IEG1-C-0003/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">WTPF-IEG/1/10</a>:<strong> </strong>List
of announced experts<br>
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<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S12-WTPF13IEG1-C-0004/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank">WTPF-IEG/1/11</a>:<strong> </strong>Report
of the Chairman on the first
meeting of the informal expert
group (IEG)<br>
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<li><a href="http://www.itu.int/md/S09-WTPF-C-0002/en" style="color:rgb(4,76,147)" target="_blank"><font color="#0072bc">WTPF-09/2</font></a>:
Rules of procedure of the fourth
World Telecommunication Policy
Forum (WTPF-09)</li>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/27 "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de" target="_blank">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de</a>></span><br>
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FYI<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
wolfgang<br>
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