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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sorry for the ellipsis, David. The
.IQ/Elashi brothers case is simply showing, imho, that as we can
observe diverse laws in diverse countries.<br>
Elashi brothers didn't kill anyone, as one can read it in the <i>Federal
Register</i>. Nevertheless, they are in jail for their life.<br>
They sold hardware (PC and memory) to Malta, and the Maltese
client delivered the goods to Syria and Lybia, that was forbidden
by the American law. And they financed Palestinian schools and
hospitals via a charity organisation that is blacklisted by the
US.<br>
<br>
I didn't wish to discuss here the Elashi's case, a painful and
complicate story. <br>
Without needing to study deeply the legal case, you could imagine
that some countries do NOT distribute "terrorist" labels in the
same way as the US do, even to the Hamas. The charity organization
<i>Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development </i>is not
blacklisted as a terrorist organization in all countries, even
Western countries. And PC export is not so tightly regulated in
all countries as in the US.<br>
Criminal here, innocent there. Even heroes...<br>
<br>
In our scope, the case shows that DNS architecture is also a very
political game.<br>
Countries at war often adopt some special acts that violate civil
rights and basic freedom. Can we built a worldwide consensus about
Internet based upon such special laws?<br>
<br>
By the way, I assume that communications in Iraq must not be very
easy during the 1997-2002. Launching the .iq was certainely not as
funny as the "big thing"...<br>
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@+, kind regards, Dominique<br>
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Le 25/06/12 23:40, David Conrad a écrit :<br>
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cite="mid:2E7E5F0B-ECC8-43C0-8DC0-914364047D09@virtualized.org"
type="cite">Dominique,
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<div>On Jun 25, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Dominique Lacroix wrote:</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 25/06/12 19:59, David
Conrad a écrit :<br>
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cite="mid:F8C605CE-822C-4340-99CC-871D25813A4B@virtualized.org"
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<pre wrap="">Out of curiosity, why do you believe ICANN (or the USG) "suspended" the .iq domain? My understanding (again, before my time at ICANN so I may be misinformed) was that the folks Postel delegated the domain to didn't do anything with it and got in trouble for violating US law when living in the US.</pre>
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<font size="+2"><small><small>Here we are!</small></small><small><small>
Elashi "<i>violated the US law</i>". </small></small></font><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; ">As if
US law was the world law!</span></div>
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<div>They were living in the US (Texas, as I understand it).
I'm assuming they did not have diplomatic immunity. Are
you saying non-diplomats living in the US are not subject to
US law because they created a commercial company that
happened to convince Jon Postel in 1997 that they could
provide ccTLD services for Iraq?</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font size="+2"><small><small>But
</small></small></font><font size="+2"><small><small>Elashi
bross</small></small></font><font size="+2"><small><small>
could not have been convicted in a lot of "clean"
countries such as UK or Australia. </small></small></font></div>
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<div>Not knowing the laws of either the UK or Australia, I
can't comment.</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font size="+2"><small><small>
And even in the States, CS rights organizations
fight for Elashi freedom!<br>
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<div>If you say so. Not being a lawyer, knowing the details of
the case, or knowing CS rights organizations or the
justification they're using to argue for the Elashi
brothers, I can't comment.</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font size="+2"><small><small>
That's exactly why the root must not be ruled by
only one country.<br>
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<div>I'm sorry, not following the logic here. While I might agree
that "oversight" (for some value of that variable) should not be
performed by a single country, I don't see how the .IQ/Elashi
brothers case argues for it. But I guess that's just me.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>-drc</div>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Dominique Lacroix
Présidente
Société européenne de l'Internet
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ies-france.eu">http://www.ies-france.eu</a>
+33 (0)6 63 24 39 14</pre>
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