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<DIV>FB is as much a public space as it can be a private space. No different
from walking down the street, which is public, but homes are private. However,
there are establishments that cater to the public which can be deemed as public
space although it may be a private business. The test is, where public liability
applies to the owner, it is a public place. Where trespass applies to the public
it is a private place.</DIV>
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<DIV>Hence, in terms of fb, it all depends on your privacy settings or the
format you choose to use, such as pages or groups. Groups can be closed or open
but pages are open to the public view. Your traffic emanates from your friends
and in some cases, friends of friends. Choose your friends carefully.</DIV>
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<DIV>ROK</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jam@jacquelinemorris.com
href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com">Jacqueline Morris</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 05, 2012 2:55 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=governance@lists.igcaucus.org
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</A> ;
<A title=mariliamaciel@gmail.com href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com">Marilia
Maciel</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] About Facebook blocked and content removed
in Brazil</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Marilia Maciel <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com"
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<DIV class=im>When Obama called Twitter to postpone the maintenance of their
website, so that protesters were not deprived of the platform on a crucial
moment of the revolution, everybody seemed to be ok with the intrusion of the
political interests of a particular government in the work methods of a
private company.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>Actually, I wasn't. But if the owners were willing to comply with his
request, and the US govt didn't strong-arm them into making the decision, I
didn't think that I had any standing to protest too loudly about the
interference of government in the running of a private business. I did grumble,
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<DIV>Zuckerberg and his best friends should not be entitled to make crucial
decisions all alone and to enforce regulation that touches upon privacy and
FoE, to name a few, as they do, across-borders. There should be mechanisms of
accountability. </DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>Why? They created it, they own it. It's theirs. They could shut it
down tomorrow, if they wanted to walk away from it. This is the problem
with people allowing themselves to grow dependent on privately owned networks.
Of course, if it's so vitally important to communication, do like governments do
when they want something private to be used for the national good - nationalise
it. It can be bought.</DIV>
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<DIV>FB grew in importance and owners' bank accounts grew in zeros. This
success comes with a price: higher standards of transparency and
accountability. </DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>Again, why? Bigger companies have higher standards of transparency and
accountability? Not really. A billion dollar company is subject to the same laws
of transparency and accountability and disclosure as a million dollar company.
At least in my country. There's laws for public companies, no matter the size.
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<DIV>As was said on the other thread, the more the platform becomes widely
used for worldwide communication, the narrower should be the freedom of FB
board to do whatever they like without democratic ways of discussion.
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<DIV>But again, why? It's a platform owned by a publicly traded company. Unless
they break laws, under what authority can anyone tell the Board - "you cannot
run your own company as you see fit"? What would the investors do, if the Board
says - well, this step is in the shareholders' best interest, but these people
say we cannot do that, so we won't act in the best interests of the company and
its shareholders. As far as I know that's reason for shareholders to remove the
Board!</DIV>
<DIV>Facebook has its own "democratic ways of discussion" - there's
"consultation" going on now on Facebook about the new terms of service and
privacy policy. </DIV>
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<DIV>When it comes to unilateral contracts, free will to negotiate is
hampered. And when it comes to platforms of strong monopolistic tendency, such
as FB, accepting these unilateral contracts (terms of use) can be far from
being an option, but a pre-rquisite to fully engage on communication in the
public sphere.</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>Yep, it's a take it or leave it proposition. Just like Windows, or Office
or pretty much any software, service, association, club, etc. Either you agree
to their terms, or you don't join/use/participate. And I don't have a problem
with that. </DIV>
<DIV>I know many friends and family who have left Facebook, or never joined, and
engage in communication quite happily on many of the other social networks, as
well as via other tools. One does not HAVE to be on Facebook. Billions of people
aren't. A good 70% of my students each semester aren't, I make them join as it's
part of the class, but many delete the account after the class. They just don't
want to be on. And that's fine. </DIV>
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<DIV>Jacqueline A. Morris</DIV>
<DIV>Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and
Free. (after <SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12px; WORD-SPACING: 2px"><A
href="http://twitter.com/chrislehmann" target=_blank>Chris Lehmann</A>
)</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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