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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=283535012-31052012>FWIW I
discussed some of these issues in a blogpost (under somewhat different
circumstances) which suggests the links between this discussion and our earlier
one on EC.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=283535012-31052012><A
href="http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/is-facebook-a-human-right-egypt-and-tunisia-transform-social-media/">http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2011/02/04/is-facebook-a-human-right-egypt-and-tunisia-transform-social-media/</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=283535012-31052012>Tiny
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<DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Salanieta
T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:32
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Marilia Maciel<BR><B>Cc:</B>
governance@lists.igcaucus.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] Facebook
profiles blocked and content removed in Brazil<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Marilia Maciel <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mariliamaciel@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Hi Sala,<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Salanieta T.
Tamanikaiwaimaro
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<DIV>Most countries have what is called "laws against obscene
publications" and some "indecent exposure" and I suspect that Brazil has
something of the sort which required the authorities to .take down certain
content.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV><BR>It was not Brazilian authorities that have taken down content from
Facebook. The concrete situation is actually quite the opposite: while
Brazilian authorities had no problem with the march and Brazilian media
(newspapers, TV) had no problem to show the images, Facebook has taken a
more conservative and restrictive stance, removing the pictures and blocking
the profiles. <BR><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>Facebook probably took this approach because its social network
transcends multiple jurisdictions that have strict laws on "obscene
publications". The recent petition filed by Vinay Rai in the New Delhi courts
against Facebook and others. My personal take on it was that it was a
<U><B>commercial</B></U> decision for "Facebook" and that it was far cheaper
to take down offensive content if it were to put it in a position of being
sued. <BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Their commercial woes are no secret, see below:</DIV>
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<P
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; MARGIN: 0px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"
class=excerpt><STRONG
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">"Facebook's
IPO troubles continue with the stock hitting a new low, the company facing a
class action lawsuit from investors, and now another social network
indefinitely postponing its own IPO because of the effect Facebook has had on
the market.</STRONG></P>
<P
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; MARGIN: 0px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Less
than two weeks after Facebook’s IPO launched, the company’s value has fallen
from an estimated $104 billion to $61.98 billion, with trading falling even
further today as the markets opened again in the US after the holiday weekend.
That’s the bad news for the social network. The worse news? Things aren’t
expected to improve any time soon.</P>
<P
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 15px; MARGIN: 0px; OUTLINE-STYLE: none; OUTLINE-COLOR: invert; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; OUTLINE-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-TOP: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">Continuing
its trend of falling share prices when the overall market rises (Today, the
NASDAQ closed up), Facebook stock took another tumble in today’s trading,
falling an additional 10 percent from its opening price, <A
style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; COLOR: rgb(96,120,144); VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; PADDING-TOP: 0px"
href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/may/29/facebook-shares-fall-new-low"
rel=nofollow>bringing its overall price to a new low of $28.84</A>, almost a
full $10 down from the $38 price that the stock launched at on May 18,
bringing the company’s core value down to just almost $62 billion. With the
company facing a class action lawsuit over the information released to
investors prior to the IPO brought by the law firm of Robbins Geller, the last
thing the company needs to hear is that things are about to get worse, but
apparently, they will."</P><SPAN
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more: <A
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href="http://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/facebook-now-worth-40-percent-less-11-days-after-ipo/#ixzz1wOGAQsz2">http://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/facebook-now-worth-40-percent-less-11-days-after-ipo/#ixzz1wOGAQsz2</A></SPAN>
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<DIV>The content was removed based on Facebook policy guidelines. It is
Facebook rules, Facebook morality, which have been applied indistictively in
a cross-border fashion to citizens
worlwide.<BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>Well if one examines how they have been under pressure by Regulators
around the world, one that comes to mind is the imposition of the German
Regulator on the use of "like feature" that facebook uses, one can only
imagine that what is reported is the tip of the iceberg. Often commercial
entities like to keep their compliance notices under wraps if they can help
it. No doubt that the cumulative cost would be inevitably high so
commercially, their policy was probably framed around the "Don't attract
unnecessary cost/ expense" model. This of course has a backdrop in what is
largely a flailing global economy where there is no new money just pieces of
the pie being reassembled.</DIV>
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<DIV>If we look at what is recently happening in Thailand as Peng Hwa and
Norbert reported on the notions of transitory liability where webmasters or
the like can face liability (not just fines) but imprisonment for not removing
content, I am not surprised. </DIV>
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<DIV><BR>Some basic conclusions: a) rights, such as freedom of expression,
are being restricted by the same platforms that are praised and known for
enabling their exercise; b) there is a privatization of Internet regulation,
subtle, based on contracts (terms of use), but yet, dangerous; c) I see no
adequate forum where we should take this issue to be analized in a
participatory and balanced way in the global
arena.<BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The UN Human Rights Council in February this year were discussing Freedom
of Expression although I wish more ti me was spent on discussing the abuse of
the exceptions under Article 19 of the ICCPR.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>On the notion of Facebook morailty - this has to be analysed on a case by
case basis, I suppose.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>Best,<BR>Marília<BR><BR><BR><BR> </DIV>
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<DIV>The issue remains is when the use of the exception is reasonble and
when is it prone to abuse?</DIV>
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<DIV>Sala
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Carlos A. Afonso
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca"
target=_blank>ca@cafonso.ca</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Which translation?? The name of the march in BR is
correct, and I did<BR>not see any translation of the Canadian equivalent
in Marilia's msg.<BR>Anyway...<BR><BR>--c.a.<BR>
<DIV><BR>On 05/30/2012 12:52 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:<BR>> Thanks
for the correction, Robert. That was the translation Google<BR>>
suggested me. Interesting.<BR>> Thanks also for taking this
forward.<BR>><BR>> Marília<BR>><BR>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at
12:47 PM, Robert Guerra <<A href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org"
target=_blank>rguerra@privaterra.org</A><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>> <mailto:<A href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org"
target=_blank>rguerra@privaterra.org</A>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>>
Marilia,<BR>><BR>> Your translation is
a bit off. The feminist group in question is the<BR>>
"slut walk" that started in my home town of Toronto and has
since<BR>> spread to other cities in CanadThnana, the
US, and internationally.<BR>> Great to know it has
spread to Brazil as well.<BR>><BR>> I'll forward
your email to contacts at Facebook to make sure they<BR>>
are aware of the incident and see if they can
comment.<BR>><BR>> In the meantime, let me share
with you and others links with details<BR>> on the
"slut walk" movement.<BR>><BR>>
regards<BR>><BR>> Robert<BR>>
--<BR>><BR>><BR>> Toronto 'slut walk' takes to
city streets (April 3, 2012)<BR>> <A
href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/04/03/slut-walk-toronto.html"
target=_blank>http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/04/03/slut-walk-toronto.html</A><BR>><BR>>
Toronto 'slut walk' spreads to U.S. (May 6, 2012)<BR>>
<A
href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/05/06/slut-walk.html"
target=_blank>http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/05/06/slut-walk.html</A><BR>><BR>>
Slut walk in Toronto -<BR>> <A
href="http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/show-news/slutwalk-in-toronto.html"
target=_blank>http://www.cbc.ca/strombo/show-news/slutwalk-in-toronto.html</A>
(March<BR>> 2012)<BR>><BR>> Don't
know if you ever heard the story, but back in January, at a<BR>>
campus safety information session at Osgoode Hall Law
School<BR>> (University of Toronto), a representative
of the Toronto Police made<BR>> the statement that
"women should avoid dressing like sluts in order<BR>>
not to be victimized."<BR>><BR>> Of course, the
comment sparked a huge outrage, and you just knew a<BR>>
protest was bound to happen.<BR>><BR>> But
you have to hand it to one group for coming up with one of the<BR>>
most creative protests ever. They areplanning a
SlutWalk.<BR>><BR>> It's planned for April 3rd in
Toronto and everyone is welcome. You<BR>> don't even
necessarily have to dress "slutty." Just come as you are.<BR>>
Sounds like a great way to make a
point.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> On 2012-05-30, at
11:32 AM, Marilia Maciel wrote:<BR>><BR>>
><BR>> > Last weekend a feminist march took place
in several cities in<BR>> Brazil. It is called "March
of Bitches" (Marcha das Vadias) and it<BR>> is an
international movement that was born in Canada. Some women<BR>>
decided to March wearing lingerie or with naked breasts as
a way to<BR>> call attention to violence against women,
women's liberty and sexual<BR>> rights and they posted
their own pictures in Facebook. Their<BR>> pictures
were removed and their profile was blocked.<BR>>
><BR>> > So, let me get this right: Brazilian
media publishes the pictures<BR>> from the protest, in
a sign that this would not at all hurt the<BR>> average
citizen. But Facebook (the platform where most of the use of<BR>>
the Internet is, unfortunately, converging to) gets to
decide what<BR>> people can or cannot show in their
albums; what is pornography, and<BR>> where to draw the
line of morality. It has been reported in Brazil<BR>>
that Facebook is also blocking old pictures from well known
artists<BR>> that display naked people, and pictures
from little girls aged 3-4<BR>> posted by their
parents, because they were not wearing shirts.<BR>>
><BR>> > This seems a very undemocratic, opaque
and potentially dangerous<BR>> way of conducting
Internet governance. The news (in Portuguese) and<BR>>
one of the controversial pictures can be accessed here:<BR>>
<A
href="http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/tec/1097488-facebook-bloqueia-usuarias-que-aparecem-seminuas-em-fotos-da-marcha-das-vadias.shtml"
target=_blank>http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/tec/1097488-facebook-bloqueia-usuarias-que-aparecem-seminuas-em-fotos-da-marcha-das-vadias.shtml</A><BR>>
><BR>> > Marília<BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> >
--<BR>> > Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade<BR>>
> FGV Direito Rio<BR>> ><BR>>
> Center for Technology and Society<BR>>
> Getulio Vargas Foundation<BR>> > Rio de
Janeiro - Brazil<BR>> >
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