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On Thursday 31 May 2012 01:37 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote:
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<pre wrap="">parminder <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"><parminder@itforchange.net></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Jac, your misgivings about how civ soc will be able to influence things
are understandable. But it is not that with turning of a switch the
regulatory order will shift from the national to the global level. In
making the demands for democratising global IG what is expected is
rather a complex interplay of global and national level of politics -
with certain degrees of government-ish authorities and corresponding
role and participative-ness of civ soc - as is appropriate to the
complex global-national nature of the Internet. There is no alternative
to such a layered national-global system
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Hmm... can you explain how the "layered national-global system"
concept would work in practice?
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Norbert, I this point I only suggested it as the generic shape and form
which political systems will need to take around the Internet, in
response to Jac's concerns about CS's suitable points of interaction
and influence. Seeking from this generic statement, the right solution
to a specific problem, jumping, inter alia, the step of appropriate
institutional arrangements, would indeed be a big leap. However I can
try. For the start, 'Internet intermediary guidelines' should be
developed globally, with all countries present, instead of OECD
developing them as present! These guidelines can limit what the
Internet intermediaries can and cannot do, and the due process of doing
it, while giving enough quarters to local law, but also seeks certain
harmonisations on the line of universal human rights etc. If that is
difficult at this stage, perhaps, we can reach the level of providing
certain set of options, with obligations to report things etc, and
pressures build into the system to move towards higher quality
options... as the UN human rights system operates today. It does help.<br>
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I know some people would immediately raise the 'lowest common
denominator' alarm, but I have great faith in global community's
political abilities and future, and even in its currently imperfect
representational systems (which includes soft, but increasing,
representational power of the civil society). And if one really doesnt
have such faith one should, perhaps, correspondingly disassociate from
economic and social globalisation, and return to small community
living. <br>
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parminder <br>
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Suppose that someone who is not aware of what the Facebook ToS says
exactly (as we all know, most people don't read ToS statements in
detail, much less remember the details of whatever parts of the ToS
they may actually have read) posts a "slut walk" picture on their
"facebook profile", and Facebook Inc reacts by deactivating that
"facebook profile" without warning. (Note to those who are familiar
with Facebook's recent actions: I'd appreciate if information could
be posted please about what actions, if any, Facebook Inc has taken
to warn people who violate Facebook's nudity rule about the rule and
about what it means - for example, non-native speakers of English
could easily misunderstand "nudity" as referring only to being fully
nude.)
How would the "layered national-global system" decide whether the
"facebook profile" is a means of communication to which the protection
of correspondence of Article 17(1) of the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights [1] applies, and whether deactivating that
"facebook profile" without warning constitutes forbidden interference
with such correspondence???
[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://idgovmap.org/map/treaty/ICCPR">http://idgovmap.org/map/treaty/ICCPR</a>
Greetings,
Norbert
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