<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>I was not reading a statement. Will try to write up somthing from my notes.<div><br></div><div>Anriette<br><br><br><span style="font-size:87%">Sent from my phone</span> </div><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>Subject: RE: [governance] CSTD Meeting on Enhanced Cooperation Note 1 <br>From: michael gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com> <br>To: governance@lists.igcaucus.org,'Izumi AIZU' <iza@anr.org> <br>CC: <br><br><br><div style="word-break:break-all;">If available, I think it would be useful if Anriette and Parminder could<br>circulate the full text of their remarks as below to the list. We've seen<br>Izumi's comments as well as Avri's already. It would be good to see the full<br>range of interventions from CS.<br><br>M<br> <br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: izumiaizu@gmail.com [mailto:izumiaizu@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Izumi<br>AIZU<br>Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 2:44 AM<br>To: governance<br>Subject: [governance] CSTD Meeting on Enhanced Cooperation Note 1<br><br><br>Stated 30 min ago, here is my memo 1.<br><br><br>CSTD Meeting on Enhanced Cooperation on Public Policy Issues Pertaining to<br>the Internet<br><br>May 18 11:15<br><br>Some 300+ people attending. Quite a few.<br><br>Chair<br>Mr. Fortunato de la Pera,<br>Undersecretary, Department of Science and Technology, Phillipines<br><br>Alexander Oncoto,<br> on behalf of Hamadoun Toure, Secretary-General, ITU<br><br>This meeting is an opportunity for all stakeholders - to implement the<br>consensus of Tunis Agenda para 35-g para 69 and 71 Resolution 102 of PP in<br>Mexico para 71 and 78 IGF and EC are two distinct processes - very important<br>ITU has started its process of EC "Dedicated Group" established PP adopted<br>resolution, open to all member states, open to all stakeholders Jun 8, all<br>member states are invited to this meeting, serve as forum where member<br>states can discuss Internet-related public policy matters<br><br>Anriette Esterhuysen, Executive Director, PAC<br><br>Reflction -<br><br>more people are connected, more people are connected.<br>IT matters more - than 2005<br>Copyright in one affect other country to access information sensorship in oe<br>country affects others in othe country<br><br>Internet - ownership is dispersed, some are by private sector, some by<br>government appilcations and content are users people are not happy with<br>current arrangement of EC some goverments feel excluded civil society or<br>small groups all feel excluded, want to be more effective lack the consensus<br>- like HR what is Public Interenst<br><br>we were not done as mandated by Tunis Agenda<br>discussion on EC - has not happened - that's why we are<br>Our proposal - myself and a netowkr of CS organizations<br>need to establish a Working Group on EC,<br>in similar way as WGIG<br>work closely with IGF, also associated with other bodies such as CSTD but<br>not belongs to IGF, essential to be fully MSH, able to participate equally<br>and free<br><br>difficulty;<br>Definition of EC<br>"in their respective roles" "on an equal footing" - what do they mean?<br>"multi-lateral and multi-stakeholder" WG to take mapping on existing IG<br>institutions output should be Delcraration of some kind, on consensus, on<br>fundamental means to be cooperative MSH Internet Governance Legitimacy is<br>essential Leadership, also - such as WGIG Interaction and Feedback this WG<br>should not work in isolation, work with Inter-governmental bodies and other<br>forum looking for - take fresh approach to a new, more comfortable approach<br><br>Parminder Singh<br>Glad to see we have finally decided to treat this important of WSIS mandate,<br>in earnest<br><br>Trying to figure out what are sticky areas - go directly to those areas but<br>before going there, there are two important questions, to be confronted<br><br>- are there enough important public policy issues to be solved at the global<br>level<br>- if so, what mechanism be appropriate - how to deal with MSH<br><br>US study on Cyber security<br>OECD<br>CoE - cross-border--<br><br>Despite the US claim of historical role<br><br>We all have this democratic - all countries should have seat on equal<br>footing<br><br>MSH - elephant in the room we must confront<br> one must admit institutionalizing representativity democratic - not easy be<br>dealt with evolving -<br><br>proposals - treat all stakeholders on equal footing - this proposition<br>problematic how to operationalize ? put Google or MS to put them in same<br>position with Governments? if so that will marginalize the democracy, the<br>biggest political system give much power to business<br><br>role of civil society is different<br> participation of CS - to articulate public interest<br> such us e<br>CS actors - do not like to claim equal opportunity at decision making<br>Technical community must understand that needs and demands of public policy<br>decisions are different from making decisions on technical matters<br><br>These are different roles of stakeholders<br>start discussion here<br>differential roles of different actors - will close the gap of EC we have<br>not reached the boundaries of ideological ..<br><br>- start with discuss on what kind of roles to play<br>- what kind of mechanism<br>- structure of MSH<br><br>Conclude - Civil Society - promising structure<br><br>India proposa is good to start EC<br>setting up CSTD WG on EC is right direction<br><br>----<br><br><br><br><br>____________________________________________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br>To be removed from the list, visit:<br> http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing<br><br>For all other list information and functions, see:<br> http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance<br>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br> http://www.igcaucus.org/<br><br>Translate this email: http://translate.google.com/translate_t<br></div> </body>