Streaming is really crappy for me, so it has been hard to follow.<div>But has anyone raised the topic of the specific things that maybe need to be changed on the methodology in order to be able to reach the "more concrete policy options" suggested on the CSTD WG? eg. type of "policy question", need for pre-assigned rapporteurs, role of rapporteurs, thematic roudtables to bring together outcomes from workshops, format that these outcomes should be communicated to "other relevant organizations".. If so, what was said about it?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Marília <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Izumi & all, interesting to know how the proposed (decided?)<br>
ministerial meeting was questioned on the grounds of the purpose of the<br>
IGF as a MSH initiative.<br>
<br>
I wonder about the role of the so-called "special advisors". Who are<br>
they? Are they considered "volunteer staff"? Since there is no<br>
replacement for Nitin & Markus (I understand Chengetai is playing<br>
Markus's role in the meantime?), who decides on the "special advisors"<br>
and other staff? I wonder about their role, again recalling this is a<br>
MSH initiative.<br>
<br>
fraternal regards<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
--c.a.<br>
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On 05/15/2012 10:30 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:<br>
> The morning meeting ended around 1300, here is my rough memo.<br>
> Annotated, as it is Open consultation, but all are very sketchy.<br>
><br>
> izumi<br>
><br>
><br>
> May 15, 2012 11:25 Open Consultation starts<br>
><br>
> UNDESA rep –<br>
> Opening remarks<br>
> over 100 workshops proposed for IGF 2012<br>
> greater transparency, more information, contribute for better governance<br>
><br>
> MR Elmir Valizda, Chair of MAG<br>
><br>
> Robert Guerra<br>
> Citizen Lab<br>
> Update for Preparation, logistics, venue and other issues<br>
> scarecity of details a problem –<br>
><br>
> Chengetai<br>
> Will have update, yes, just now.<br>
><br>
> Constance, ISOC<br>
> ISCO reception<br>
><br>
> Question of participation of indigenes people<br>
> rather than access to Internet, they need food, closing, shelters<br>
> I need free and active participation from indigenes people<br>
><br>
> Azerbaijan host to report:<br>
> IGF Nov 6-9<br>
> Nov 5 – ministerial meeting<br>
> info on Baku/Azerbaijan<br>
><br>
> All hotels (90) with reduced corporate rates, without 18% VAT<br>
> 46 hotels will be provided with shuttles<br>
> 17 hotels – no shuttles<br>
><br>
> Izumi read Judy’s comment:<br>
> Physical Accessibility<br>
> it is imperative that all locations/ venue , transport,etc is<br>
> accessible and usable for PWD .<br>
><br>
> Mervi, Finland<br>
> Question on Ministerial Meeting<br>
> who can participate?<br>
> agenda?<br>
> who are the organizer?<br>
><br>
> Chair<br>
> Mostly, ministers, but can consider to invite head of delegates<br>
><br>
> Robert Guerra<br>
> Make sure in the Host Country Agreement, for participants to feel free<br>
> out of fear.<br>
><br>
> Chair<br>
> As Deputy minister, I will try to answer<br>
> Registration will be happen on the IGF Website, not our own website,<br>
> therefore, anyperson have possibility to register,<br>
> After this information will be provide to our governmental bodies to<br>
> issue visas and others<br>
> About some controls; free usage of Internet<br>
> through fix, mobile and other<br>
> We have some restrictions and all persons tha live and work<br>
> inAzerbaijan and if you come – can be used these technologies – suchs<br>
> possibilitew will be provided during IGF Balu.<br>
><br>
> Peter Major<br>
> On accessibility said by Izumi mostly<br>
><br>
> Judia Okite from Kenya<br>
> adding to accessibility, add that, ^ host country to check out hotel<br>
> if they are accessible with PWD for making booking<br>
><br>
> Host<br>
> Our staff checked all the hotels, but did not put info on this, will<br>
> update the hotel list with this issue as well.<br>
><br>
> Felix Samakande, new MAG, Zimbabwe<br>
> reaction to Video – recollection of Lithuania experience<br>
> restriction of time to speak but speak slowly for interpreter<br>
><br>
> Chair<br>
> Translation will be provided only in Main Session – not in workshops<br>
><br>
> Constance, ISOC<br>
> Mervi’s question – add invitation to CEOs, Civil society members<br>
><br>
> Chair<br>
>>From Kenya, we will keep this tradtion of inviting CEO (of ICANN), Civil Society<br>
><br>
> Aysha<br>
> Comment on Ministerial, participated in Kenyan Ministerial<br>
> important to have dialogue among all stakeholders<br>
><br>
> AZ Foreign Minisry<br>
> Visa issue – in due course<br>
><br>
> Participation of all organizations – take seriously, treat every singe<br>
> delegation in a non-discriminatory soverigh-<br>
> IF not paritcpate from soverign countries – it’s their choice<br>
> Linkage between of hosting event and allegation of freedom of<br>
> expression and mediu,<br>
> it is institutional nor, insure the norm and contineus to do so<br>
> mis-reprsented by some media-<br>
> is very infortunate that we are taking this time to address to<br>
> verenate the situation<br>
> clear – emotiona accests do not add credit to the authority of the<br>
> organizations or rpresentatives<br>
><br>
> Anna, Portugal<br>
><br>
> Question about Ministerial meeting<br>
> What is man objective of this Ministerial which countries are invited?<br>
> which Ministry?<br>
> we are in Multi-stakeholder event – cannot be put apart<br>
> MSH is not about big companies, but small companies, civil society, etc<br>
> what is the purpose of this Ministerial?<br>
><br>
> Chair<br>
> Kenya, it was the first time to have Ministerial<br>
><br>
> Alice – explained the Kenyan Ministerial<br>
> agenda – came as bottom up, discussed at East Africa IGF<br>
><br>
> AZ rep<br>
> There is discussion on how to model ministerial meeting<br>
> we want to hear to MAG members – which model?<br>
> all countries participated in ITU members – ITU has list of<br>
> ministries – who is resposbile on Telecom, ICT InfoSoc -sent<br>
> invitation letter to those countries<br>
> Involving private sector – big companies but we can invite others<br>
> we want to modelize and find best figure – useful<br>
><br>
> Address the<br>
> your country will be responsible and delegate your officials to that meeting.<br>
> ITU will channel this<br>
><br>
> Wolfgang<br>
> Question to DESA<br>
> Nitin and Markus stepped down more than 2 years ago<br>
> Can we expect that two positions will be filled at IGF in Baku?<br>
><br>
> DESA<br>
> Situation on Executive Coordinator and Special Advisor<br>
> It was funded by IGF Trust fund, voluntary contributions, but<br>
> regrettably, current voluntary contributions do not allow the<br>
> recruitment of EC<br>
> we are concerned about the absence of EC<br>
> once new project document approved 1 year ago, received from Controller,<br>
> 90 applicants applied for the EC<br>
> Due to the financial balance project, we still have strong negative<br>
> balance – not able to recruit the EC<br>
> Go to IGC Website, you can see the balance of the project document<br>
> We just canceled the announcement of the EC, not able to continue the<br>
> recruitment,<br>
><br>
> Special Advisor – prerogative of the SG, no influence to force him to<br>
> make the decision<br>
><br>
> Anriette from APC<br>
> On Minsterial – I think it is very useful mechanism, appreciated in Kenya –<br>
> but IGF is different from ITU, complement each other<br>
> IGF could take broader government and other stakeholders – on policy<br>
> Not rely on ITU database, but to be more creative about which minister to invite<br>
> Thematic focus on Ministerial – to define – then which CS and minister<br>
><br>
> ON human rights, -good hear to the reassurance – ask Host country to<br>
> make documents and ask DESA to reflect them into Host Country<br>
> agreement<br>
><br>
> Chair<br>
> according to the procedure, the host country must sign agreement with<br>
> UN DESA, and all issues are indicated in this agreement<br>
> Issues on transportation, visa, equipmet, computers are fulle include<br>
> toths agreement<br>
> And now this is agreement – w can publish them in our website.<br>
><br>
> Anna Neves, Portugal<br>
> It is up to the host country to invite which Minister, yes. If it is<br>
> ITU event, then invite telecom ministers. but if it is IGF, then not<br>
> only telecom ministers.<br>
> If you use ITU Detabase, please do not call as “IGF”.<br>
> On EC, puzzled. Strange. There is voluntary funding.<br>
><br>
> Chair<br>
> We can consider all of your proposal. During this event, you have<br>
> possibility of contact from our delegation, you can provide some info<br>
> on some ministries, please inform us, and we will invite these<br>
> ministries. Please provide these.<br>
><br>
> Bertrand de La Chappell<br>
> On Visa, related to citizens of countries who may have political<br>
> tensions and who may have difficulty – can you ensure that there will<br>
> be no restriction.<br>
> On EC, situation is extremely troublesome, painfully.<br>
> It might be intentional – I don’t believe that. Choice- wrong<br>
> intensions or inefficiency – both are bad. Current situation is<br>
> weakening the IGF.<br>
> Chicken and Egg –we cannot hire because of funding, funding not coming<br>
> because of uncertainty<br>
> canceling the process – re-launching – take months<br>
><br>
> MAG could, in due time, to designate its own Chair – as an option<br>
> A voluntary desire to solve this problem<br>
><br>
> DESA<br>
> Communicated to donor community –<br>
> we are not limiting them, trying hard<br>
> recent situation with Google – working with lawyers, beyond control<br>
> hope to solve this situation as soon as possible<br>
> Recruitment process for EC<br>
> we stay with one rule approved by member states<br>
> no other way.<br>
><br>
> Chengetai<br>
> HCA – treated equal as UN<br>
><br>
> Qusai<br>
> Ministerial meeting – not IGF event, right?<br>
> AZ’s liberty – to organize<br>
><br>
><br>
> LINCH Break<br>
><br>
> Adam<br>
> How many workshops are possible to be organized – how many rooms?<br>
><br>
> Chengetai<br>
> 128 Workshop proposals – highest number submitted<br>
> The venue can fit all workshops<br>
> Do we want to have 12 workshops at the same time?<br>
><br>
> Grading –<br>
> above 12 - green<br>
> below 12 – orange<br>
><br>
> SOP 49<br>
> Access 19<br>
> EI, IG4D<br>
> CIR 10%<br>
> TS, WF 6%<br>
> Others -<br>
><br>
> Cade - how about dynamic coalitions and Open Forum?<br>
><br>
> Chengetai - we need to consider them all.<br>
><br>
<br>
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