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face=Arial>I don't disagree with anything that you written, and I don't
see how there is a conflict between my observation and
yours.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=842224201-11032012> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller@syr.edu]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:28 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
governance@lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA
renewal<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Michael
and Matthias<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Both of
you are not that close to the context, and thus may not understand what is
really going on here. The governments’ (USG’s, on behalf of the GAC) attempt
to insert “public interest” language into the IANA contract is an extremely
hostile threat to freedom and to multistakeholder policy making. The object of
the “public interest” standard is to give basically any government, or any
group of governments, the ability to object to and veto any new top level
domain addition they don’t like. It also gives the trademark lobby a chance to
lobby NTIA against any new domains they don’t like – even if they meet all of
ICANN’s stated criteria and policies. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">ICANN’s
original “morality and public order” objection process was an attempt to tie
new TLD vetos to established international law. The GAC, led by an insistent
US government (and supported by such “progressive” democracies as India)
rejected a law-based process and also rejected an attempt to reach a
compromise consensus by participating on equal terms with civil society and
the private sector in the policy making process. What they want, instead, is
the ability to unilaterally object to anything they don’t like. It could be
.gay, it could be .xxx, it could be ANYTHING. That is they point. They want a
blank check, they want an “I know it when I see it” kind of standard. They
don’t want to be bound by law, because they know there are international human
rights standards that make it illegal for some countries to suppress
expression unless it’s actually illegal.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The other
source of the “public interest” standard is the trademark lobby, which really
wants there to be no new gTLDs at all. Finding themselves unable to even
pretend to find consensus on that, they would like to introduce a
circuit-breaker into the new gTLD approval process. They want, in other words,
to add a new layer of politicization to what is supposed to be a mechanical
process by which IANA simply ascertains that a new gTLD approved by ICANN
actually was approved by ICANN. Instead of that, IANA conducting a public
interest test would allow all kinds of quiet, insider lobbying to go on in an
attempt to block a TLD. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Don’t be
fooled. It takes more than invoking the words “public interest” to do things
that are actually in the public interest. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org
[mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>michael
gurstein<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:17 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
governance@lists.igcaucus.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [governance] NTIA says
ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA
renewal<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I
think from a civil society perspective the "formal" use of the terminology
of a "global public interest" is enormously important and defining,
operationalizing, and "owning" this terminology should be the primary
focus of civil society involvement in the IGF going
forward. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> -----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</A>
<A
href="mailto:[mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org]">[mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org]</A>
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Matthias C. Kettemann<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March
10, 2012 2:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [governance] NTIA says ICANN "does not meet the requirements" for IANA
renewal<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I have done a bit of thinking and writing about what the
NTIA decision tells us about Internet Governance and the multi-stakeholder
approach. <BR><BR>In brief: Is the NTIA decision a good thing for
multistakeholderbased human rights-sensitive Internet Governance?<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <BR><BR>It is, if it leads to
more accountability in the next application of ICANN, which is sure to
follow.<BR>It isn't, if it leads to more governmental oversight in defining
the global public interest vis-a-vis the web. </SPAN><BR><BR>For more
details, see <A
href="http://goo.gl/d5GI8">http://goo.gl/d5GI8</A><BR><BR>Cheers<BR>Matthias<BR><BR><BR>Am
10.03.2012 22:32, schrieb Karl Auerbach: <o:p></o:p></P><PRE>On 03/10/2012 11:12 AM, michael gurstein wrote:<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Perhaps the next IGF should have some sessions focusing on the nature of,<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>and a definition for "the global public interest".<o:p></o:p></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>Might I suggest the following as a starting point?<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>+ Every person shall be free to use the Internet in any way<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> that is privately beneficial without being publicly<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> detrimental.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE> - The burden of demonstrating public detriment shall<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> be on those who wish to prevent the private use.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE> - Such a demonstration shall require clear and<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> convincing evidence of public detriment.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE> - The public detriment must be of such degree and extent<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> as to justify the suppression of the private activity.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>This is from <A href="http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000059.html">http://www.cavebear.com/cbblog-archives/000059.html</A><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE> --karl--<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE>
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