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And thanks. Costs in time and effort are substantial I agree. But note I didn't suggest we -all - focus on the ITU, or this particular meeting.<br>
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I did suggest it might be tactically wise if -someone(s) were to manouver themselves onto a national delegation, or 2 or 3.
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Especially if they can get others to pay their costs. While of course staying true to cs and perhaps taking input from IGC to the meeting. Academics serving as advisors to national delegations are not uncommon for example. How their costs are covered, varies.
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If not possible in this case for IGC to identify allies who may be there anyway, then we essentially rely on business as usual. Meaning we hope some governments, business interests, and members of the technical community, mainly, will speak up if something
egregious from a CS view is gaining momentum in these real-time treaty/reg revision meetings. Usually that happens so it's not like I am that concerned; but.<br>
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Lee<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org; 'Robert Guerra'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Guerra<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [governance] Rough costs to participate at upcoming WCIT 12</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree that it would be good to have CS at least try to get on a national delegation. However, the challenge is not only convincing the relevant ministry to add a CS member, but also finding ways to find the funding.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">How much funding would be required. Well, let me try to make a best guess ....</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Let me make the following assumptions:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Use the US State Department Per diem rates for accommodation & per diem </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><<a href="http://aoprals.state.gov/web920/per_diem_action.asp?MenuHide=1&CountryCode=1172" target="_blank">http://aoprals.state.gov/web920/per_diem_action.asp?MenuHide=1&CountryCode=1172</a>></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Costs:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Flight: Approx 1,300 USD (Using average from <a href="http://expedia.com" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Accommodation: 360 (Max accommodation rate) x 15 = 5,400</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Per Diem: 143 (Max rate) x 15 = 2145</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Total: 1300+5400+2145 = 8845 . For the sake of rounding, let's call it an even 9,000 USD. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Though this # likely underestimates the cost as other items such as Taxi's and phone costs aren't included</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What that means is that for CS to be added to a national level delegation we need convince one's national level delegation or another donor to make 9,000 USD PER CS delegate for just the WCIT meeting in Dec. There are several preparatory
meetings taking place ahead of the Dubai meeting. Thus we'd need to be there as well. Say there are 2 WCIT prep meetings - well, that increases the CS required budget from 9K to 27,000 USD!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">27,000 USD is quite a sum. The larger question is strategic value - should we focus our time, energy and limited financial resources to fund CS participation at WCIT or instead convince national level delegations to enhance CS participation
more broadly by supporting the CS IGF trust fund ? That's something no doubt worth discussing on here...</p>
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