<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Tim Davies <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk">tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hello Imran and others,<div><br></div><div>I'm also uncomfortable if we frame 'Internet for Kids' as creating some sort of separate tightly filtered Internet. I would see the task of focussing on the Internet for Children much more as a question of ensuring there is positive content available to children in engaging online and making positive choices, rather than adults choosing to control children's and young people's access to information with filtered online spaces.</div>
<div> <br></div></blockquote><div>Excellent point Tim. I like this approach.<br><br> Perhaps if I could invite volunteers to work on consolidating the comments and themes that have surfaced so we can get some level of consensus. This is so we can prepare to send our thoughts. We will then put it to the list for a consensus call.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div></div><div>I think a language of Children's Rights is useful here, and the ideas Imran suggest below, might fit into the proposal I put in the Human Rights thread for reframing 'Child Protection' as a 'Children's Rights' thread. Below is what I said in that thread about the value in taking a Children's Rights approach to these issues:</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><div>"On the suggestion for (11) on 'Online child protection', I would really like to see this framed as 'Children's <span style="background-image:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,204)">Rights</span>: Protection, Provision and Participation', rather than solely 'child protection', particularly as this is falling under a '<span style="background-image:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,204)">human</span> <span style="background-image:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,204)">rights</span>' heading. </div>
</div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div>I've written a bit on the justification for this at <a href="http://eprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/23226/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">http://eprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/23226/</a> - but essentially, when we adopt narrow narratives of 'online child protection' we end up (a) neglecting children and young people's broader set of <span style="background-image:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,204)">rights</span> to be active participants on the web, and to safe and supportive online provision; and (b) we adopt counter-productive strategies which don't even serve the intended goals of keeping young people safe from harm online. "</div>
</div><div><br></div></blockquote><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">All the best</font><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div></font></span><div>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">Tim<br>
</font><div><br></div><div><br></div></font></span><div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Fatima Cambronero <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fatimacambronero@gmail.com" target="_blank">fatimacambronero@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>2012/2/21 McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div>On 2/21/12, Imran Ahmed Shah <<a href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Thanks Sala for your comments,<br>
> This idea is derived from one of my friend/collegue, and we were discussing<br>
> that it is very hard to configure kids PCs for safe online surfing,<br>
> configuring the Firewall and Parental Protection kind of things, or using<br>
> the Kids-Safe-Online utilities individually obtained. Why not we devise some<br>
> governance for the provisioning of allowing just a single browser to Kids<br>
> Login, and a dedicated Search Engine that could provide the confidence of<br>
> Certified Clean Websites only related to the Kids.<br>
<br>
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</div>Wouldn't this violate their Human Rights? (Access to<br>
Knowledge/Information/Right to Communicate).<br></blockquote></div><div><br><br>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>And what about their
privacy? Do children have no Right to Privacy?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>From what age do
children acquire the right to privacy?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br><span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Fatima<br></span></p>
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