Dear Sala and everyone,<div><br></div><div>I would suggest one change to smooth the argument - move the fifth paragraph to follow the second - see below.</div><div><br></div><div>Otherwise I still believe that we need to make the "we must have remote participation" argument as forcefully as possible, and with that in mind I would put the suggestions - the paragraphs that say 'how' in a separate statement. In this case the statement would close at paragraph 8, with paragraph 15 moved up as the conclusion. I haven't done that to the document because no one seems to agree with me :-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best wishes to all and good luck to those on the front line in Geneva</div><div>De</div><div><br></div><div><p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">1. We would
like to reiterate that remote participation is a crucial part of organizing the
Internet Governance Forum (IGF) and we appreciate the effort to provide remote
participation for the Open Consultation, the Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group
(MAG) meetings, and the MAG meeting this month – February 2012 – which was
opened to observers.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">2. The IGC
believes that Remote Participation (RP) should be an integral part of Internet
Governance and IGF Policy Processes. It is impossible to sustain an inclusive
global policy process without effective remote participation.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">3 was 5.
The MAG and IGF Secretariats should start working with the host to ensure
that real time transcriptions are available for all sessions and not just the
Main Sessions.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">4 was 3. We
would like to commend the excellent work of the technical team from Politecnico
di Torino, (The Polytechnic University of Turin) which was originally brought
by our colleague and former IGC Civil Society Coordinator Vittorio Bertola.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#500050">5 was 4.
However, we would like to point out some difficulties that occurred with the
system during the open MAG meeting. On the third day, morning session, (the
second day of the open MAG meeting), remote observers were effectively excluded
because they had no access to live transcript.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#500050">6. Also MAG
members trying to participate online had difficulty in contacting moderators,
partly because the moderators were serving more than one function.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#500050">7. We strongly
urge MAG and IGF Secretariats and ourselves to consider the following for the
future IGF organizing work and the IGF itself, and work together to bring them
about:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:44.65pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222">·<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:7pt">
</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Ensuring equal participation between online
and offline participants through planning meetings to give online and offline
participants an equal opportunity to participate and contribute to meetings.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:44.65pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222">·<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:7pt">
</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Ensuring that there is sufficient capacity and
appropriate bandwidth to sustain remote participation by liaising with hosts
well in advance to enable greater interactions from offline participants.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:44.65pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222">·<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:7pt">
</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Preparing a clear comprehensive guideline for
remote participation and its moderation and post session or meeting reporting
for meeting hosts, facilitators and chairs.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:44.65pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222">·<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:7pt">
</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Clearly advertising opportunities for RP in
advance of all meetings, with clear guidance for participants on the opportunities
to engage through RP that will be available.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:44.65pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222">·<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:7pt">
</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Always assigning exclusive remote
participation coordinator/moderators (who do not have other jobs at the same
time, and are responsible for interactions between the meeting’s physical
participants/current speaker, the Chair and the remote participants).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:44.65pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222">·<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:7pt">
</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Establishing a clear procedure that would
encourage remote participants to intervene. Such a system is desirable both for
those physically present in Geneva
and those observing the meeting remotely.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:44.65pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222">·<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:7pt">
</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Providing as much interactivity as
possible by giving remote participants to interact and engage in
meetings.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:44.65pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222">·<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:7pt">
</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Providing multiple methods – video, voice and
text channel, as well as real-time transcription and video streaming – of
coverage of the meeting</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:44.65pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222">·<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:7pt">
</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Enabling the meeting and remote participation
through interactive presentations access through RP.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:44.65pt"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222">·<span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:7pt">
</span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">Creating a select Task force or Working Group
created that has representatives from the Government, Private Sector and Civil
Society that is dedicated to seeing improvements of Remote Participation
and to ensure the incorporation of critical elements that have been highlighted
to ensure improved remote participation processes.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">8. Because
only limited funds are available for face- to -face participation, this
issue is crucially important to all stakeholders from all constituencies who
are entitled to participate in the meetings, and who wish to do so from a
remote location.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">9. We also
encourage greater partnership between the governments and private sector in enhancing
remote participation.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">10. We have to
move beyond advocacy to listing and creating tangible outcomes to make
improved, stable and sustainable remote participation a reality.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#500050">11. There are
regions around the world where transportation is extremely expensive and one
such region is the Pacific which has 22 countries and territories. Remote
participation was the only way that any of these countries could access the
IGF.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">12. However
there is room to improve processes and create an IGF culture where remote participation
is prioritised through exploring tested methodology.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">13. The
appropriate technical solutions need also to be explored as well bandwidth and
ensuring that there is uninterrupted power supply and redundancy options where
back up generators are critical to maintain a consistent and seamless flow. The
MAG and IGF Secretariats should also ensure that there is sufficient and
dedicated bandwidth capacity to sustain the volume of traffic from remote
participation.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">14. Aside from
having the appropriate technical solutions and should also include the
following:-</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#500050">· Outreach;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#500050">· Mapping
local and regional stakeholders;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">· Coordinating
with people on the ground significantly before the IGF in a series of strategic
roll out;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#500050">· Identifying
how the private sector, civil society and governments can be better involved in
the remote hubs etc</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222">15. We also
express our support of the IGF RPWG which published guidelines and
recommendations for remote participation and IGF 2011 WS-67 participants
prepared a<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://discuss.diplomacy.edu/e-participation/?p=1" target="_blank" title="E Participation Principles"><span style="color:#1155cc">draft of
e-participation principles</span></a>.<a href="http://discuss.diplomacy.edu/e-participation/?p=1" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc"><br>
</span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 February 2012 15:46, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear All,<br><br>Thank you for your contributions and comments. As you can imagine, more than 48 hours has passed since putting the Statement to the list for feedback and rough consensus. We have tried as best as possible to include your comments into the Statement on the Workspace. Thank you Izumi for initiating the process and De for consolidating the text and numerous others who have contributed.<br>
<br><a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/digressit/archives/32" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/digressit/archives/32</a><br><br>The Civil Society members of the CSTD can alert others to the IGC statement. Whilst we are wrapping up the Statement to enable Izumi and Marilia to take our perspectives, we should encourage dialogue on how we can actively contribute in this area.<br>
<br>If there are volunteers who want to be more involved perhaps you could engage in further dialogue on how to help out. I have copied the text below.<br><br>Warm Regards,<br>Sala<br><br>URL: <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/digressit/archives/32" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/digressit/archives/32</a><br>
<span><p>We
would like to reiterate that remote participation is a crucial part of
organizing the Internet Governance Forum (IGF) and we appreciate the
effort to provide remote participation for the Open Consultation, the
Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) meetings, and the MAG meeting
this month – February 2012 – which was opened to observers.</p></span>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>The IGC believes that Remote
Participation should be an integral part of Internet Governance and IGF
Policy Processes. It is impossible to sustain an inclusive global policy
process without effective remote participation.</p></span>
</div><div>
<span></span><span title="There is one comment for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>We would like to commend the excellent
work of the technical team from Politecnico di Torino, (The Polytechnic
University of Turin) which was originally brought by our colleague and
former IGC Civil Society Coordinator Vittorio Bertola.</p></span>
</div><div class="im">
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are 3 comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>However, we would like to point out
some difficulties that occurred with the system during the open MAG
meeting. On the third day, morning session, (the second day of the open
MAG meeting), remote observers were effectively excluded because they
had no access to live transcript.</p></span>
</div>
</div><div>
<span></span><span title="There are 4 comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>The MAG and IGF Secretariats should
start working with the host to ensure that real time transcriptions are
available for all sessions and not just the Main Sessions.</p></span>
</div><div class="im">
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are 2 comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>Also MAG members trying to participate
online had difficulty in contacting moderators, partly because the
moderators were serving more than one function.</p></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are 2 comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>We strongly urge MAG and IGF
Secretariats and ourselves to consider the following for the future IGF
organizing work and the IGF itself, and work together to bring them
about:</p></span>
</div>
</div><div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><ul><li>Ensuring equal participation between online and offline participants
through planning meetings to give online and offline participants an
equal opportunity to participate and contribute to meetings.</li></ul></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There is one comment for this paragraph"></span>
<span><ul><li>Ensuring that there is sufficient capacity and appropriate bandwidth
to sustain remote participation by liaising with hosts well in advance
to enable greater interactions from offline participants.</li></ul></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are 3 comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><ul><li>Preparing a clear comprehensive guideline for remote participation
and its moderation and post session or meeting reporting for meeting
hosts, facilitators and chairs.</li></ul></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><ul><li>Clearly advertising opportunities for RP in advance of all meetings,
with clear guidance for participants on the opportunities to engage
through RP that will be available.</li></ul></span>
</div><div>
<span></span><span title="There is one comment for this paragraph"></span>
<span><ul><li>Always assigning exclusive remote participation
coordinator/moderators (who do not have other jobs at the same time, and
are responsible for interactions between the meeting’s physical
participants/current speaker, the Chair and the remote participants).</li></ul></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are 2 comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><ul><li>Establishing a clear procedure that would encourage remote
participants to intervene. Such a system is desirable both for those
physically present in Geneva and those observing the meeting remotely.</li></ul></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><ul><li>Providing as much interactivity as possible by giving remote participants to interact and engage in meetings.</li></ul></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There is one comment for this paragraph"></span>
<span><ul><li>Providing multiple methods – video, voice and text channel, as well
as real-time transcription and video streaming – of coverage of the
meeting</li></ul></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are 2 comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><ul><li>Enabling the meeting and remote participation through interactive presentations access through RP.</li></ul></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><ul><li>Creating a select Task force or Working Group created that has
representatives from the Government, Private Sector and Civil Society
that is dedicated to seeing improvements of Remote Participation and
to ensure the incorporation of critical elements that have been
highlighted to ensure improved remote participation processes.</li></ul></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>Because only limited funds are
available for face- to -face participation, this issue is crucially
important to all stakeholders from all constituencies who are entitled
to participate in the meetings, and who wish to do so from a remote
location.</p></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>We also encourage greater partnership between the governments and private sector in enhancing remote participation.</p></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>We have to move beyond advocacy to
listing and creating tangible outcomes to make improved, stable and
sustainable remote participation a reality.</p></span>
</div><div class="im">
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are 2 comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>There are regions around the world
where transportation is extremely expensive and one such region is the
Pacific which has 22 countries and territories. Remote participation was
the only way that any of these countries could access the IGF.</p></span>
</div>
</div><div>
<span></span><span title="There is one comment for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>However there is room to improve
processes and create an IGF culture where remote participation is
prioritised through exploring tested methodology.</p></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>The appropriate technical solutions
need also to be explored as well bandwidth and ensuring that there is
uninterrupted power supply and redundancy options where back up
generators are critical to maintain a consistent and seamless flow. The
MAG and IGF Secretariats should also ensure that there is sufficient and
dedicated bandwidth capacity to sustain the volume of traffic from
remote participation.</p></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>Aside from having the appropriate technical solutions and should also include the following:-</p></span>
</div><div class="im">
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>· Outreach;</p></span>
</div>
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>· Mapping local and regional stakeholders;</p></span>
</div>
</div><div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>· Coordinating with people on the ground significantly before the IGF in a series of strategic roll out;</p></span>
</div><div class="im">
<div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>· Identifying how the private sector, civil society and governments can be better involved in the remote hubs etc</p></span>
</div>
</div><div>
<span></span><span title="There are no comments for this paragraph"></span>
<span><p>We also express our support of the IGF
RPWG which published guidelines and recommendations for remote
participation and IGF 2011 WS-67 participants prepared a <a title="E Participation Principles" href="http://discuss.diplomacy.edu/e-participation/?p=1" target="_blank">draft of e-participation principles</a>.<a href="http://discuss.diplomacy.edu/e-participation/?p=1" target="_blank"><br>
</a></p></span>
</div><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Roland Perry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roland@internetpolicyagency.com" target="_blank">roland@internetpolicyagency.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">In message <<a href="mailto:46B69E1D-CF91-4E31-A9CC-4DD306D57CB0@privaterra.org" target="_blank">46B69E1D-CF91-4E31-A9CC-<u></u>4DD306D57CB0@privaterra.org</a>>, at 11:21:13 on Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Robert Guerra <<a href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org" target="_blank">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>> writes<div>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
What type of assistance and/or support will be provided - well, hopefully we'll find out soon from the Secretariat and/or Google<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
Do they have a product which competes with the current market leaders from Cisco and Adobe? What the IGF needs is something which works, of course - historically their tools have been allegedly very fussy about exactly what version of 'flash' or whatever you have installed, and that sort of thing is half the battle.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
-- <br>
Roland Perry<br>
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