<p>Dear Khaled:</p><p>I never took your emails as personal or against someone.This notion never came to my mind and knowing you make me sure of that. </p><div>You have concerns that are important and needed to be addressed. I just wanted to address these concerns and assure that we both have the same ideas in mind.,</div>
<div> </div><div>Good to Hear from you and looking forward for your participation,,</div><p> </p><p>Qusai<br><br></p><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Khaled KOUBAA <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:khaled.koubaa@gmail.com">khaled.koubaa@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    Dear Qusai,<br>
    Please note that my email is not personal not against your effort
    nor ESCWA one. And it is not because I was not invited as person.<br>
    I am sure that you are aware about Youth role and that you will
    provide them with great opportunities. <br>
    What I would honestly like to see is a real civil society with
    enough knowledge about critical IG issues playing a continuous role
    at regional and local level.<br>
    Regards,<br>
    <br>
    Khaled<br>
    <br>
    Le 15/02/2012 16:20, Qusai AlShatti a écrit :
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      <div>Dear Khaled and Hanan</div>
      <div>Thank you Hanan for your kind comments and thank you khaled
        for raising your concerns. The fact that someone was not there
        in the meeting does not mean that the meeting was not set in
        the right way or did not comply with multistakeholder
        participation. Actually as I have mentioned in a previous input
        and echoed by some of my colleagues, the open consulation was
        inclusive, open and publicly anounced for participation. </div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>However what khaled have in mind is what we are planning for
        the Arab IGF. We do want the Arab youth who drived change in the
        Arab world and still doing it to be the main dirve of the AIGF.
        I believe AIGFshould be a dialouge space for them. It should
        allow us to exchange views with the youth as well as listen to
        them. </div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>We need also to bare in mind that the purpose of the open
        consultation that took place in Beirut was only to discuss the
        launch of the AIGF and I think all of us agree that it is
        important to us. The planning of AIGF and its program are our
        upcoming activities. It will start with a public announcement
        for the AIGF MAG membership and we look forward to all
        stakeholders to express their interest and participate in the
        AIGF MAG.</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>Let us look forward to make the upcoming AIGF a successful
        one by making it inclusive, transparent and open to all with
        emphasis on Arab youth and activists.</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>Regards,</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div>Qusai AlShatti</div>
      <div> </div>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Hanane
        Boujemi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hananeb@diplomacy.edu" target="_blank">hananeb@diplomacy.edu</a>></span>
        wrote:<br>
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          Kahled<br>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I get your point and I can confirm that civil society
            fingerprints are quite significant in setting the scene of
            the AIGF even though there were only few members present.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>
            Now that the process took off effectively with Kuwait taking
            the lead in organizing the first AIGF (and thanks to Qusai
            for his constant support) and ESCWA as well who really
            worked hard to get this process out of the door.  We have to
            join forces to make it a successful true open forum to all
            parties concerned. There will be open consultations to
            decide on the themes and workshops and that's where civil
            society from the region must be ready to raise the main
            issues at stake vis-a-vis IG. </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>There is no chance for the AIGF to be another episode in
            the oppression soap opera , power is now changing as you
            said and it's in the hand of the common man thanks to the
            Internet.</div>
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              <div>Hanane</div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:54
                  PM, Khaled KOUBAA <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:khaled.koubaa@gmail.com" target="_blank">khaled.koubaa@gmail.com</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hanane,<br>
                      The AICTO is a Governmental-Organization and does
                      not represent the civil society. <br>
                      You know more than me that they are really very
                      few of real civil society "free" and "independent"
                      CSO in the Arab World.<br>
                      The private sector is as well governed in a big
                      part by governments. So what we will have is a
                      Arab IGF where what the governments will propose
                      will be congratulated and accepted by the
                      participants. <br>
                      Let's be honest with ourselves, are we just
                      continuing to do the same "cinema" than before ? <br>
                      I think that a region like the Arab region where
                      there is now huge geopolitical regional change,
                      revolutions in some countries, power changing in
                      some others, and all this with a big role being
                      played by Internet. <br>
                      Do you think an Arab IGF can be made like this ?
                      We need a real participatory process.<br>
                      Where is the revolution leaders ? where is the
                      Internet and Human rights activists ? are they
                      involved ? will the be invited ? I don't think so.<br>
                      The same old pro-dictators continue to play the
                      same game in our countries.<br>
                      <br>
                      Khaled<br>
                      <br>
                      Le 14/02/2012 21:18, Hanane Boujemi a écrit :
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <blockquote type="cite">
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Kahlid&Tijani,<br>
                              <br>
                              There was a lady from Tunisia Ms. Roukia
                              who represented Arab ICT ORG. The whole
                              AIGF process was delayed for one year due
                              to the Arab spring and ESCWA had to
                              organize the last consultation meeting to
                              establish the forum very quickly and it
                              might explain the reason why other CS ORGs
                              from the Arab region did not manage to
                              participate. <br>
                              <br>
                              I was very much involved since 2009 in
                              this process. I participated in the
                              consultaions that took place in 2010 and
                              2012 and I also constributed with other CS
                              members from the Arab region to define the
                              Arab IG roadmap published by UNESCWA and
                              based on which the forum will be
                              organized. I suppose that the emerging
                              issues since the roadmap was drafted will
                              be also taken into consideration to define
                              the agenda of the first edition.<br>
                              <br>
                              Please do follow @IGFArab on Twitter and
                              ArabIGF on Facebook for more updates about
                              the whole process. It will be great if we
                              get as many Arab CS members involved. It
                              will be also great to do some outreach at
                              the local level to define the IG process
                              since the concept is still ambiguous to
                              the masses in the region. I am afraid a
                              lot of work needs to be done in this
                              regard.<br>
                              <br>
                              Hanane Boujemi</p>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 14,
                              2012 at 8:55 PM, Imran Ahmed Shah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                Dear Quasi,<br>
                                Would you please share the next meeting
                                schedule for AIGF activities?<br>
                                I hope that if there is some remote
                                participation facility, some of our
                                Group Members may join from Dubai, Abu
                                Dhabi, Sharjah and Saudi Arabia.<br>
                                We can also ask UN-GAID to participate
                                and support in AIGF formation
                                activities.<br>
                                Thanks and Regards<br>
                                Imran Ahmed Shah<br>
                                ------------------------------On Wed,
                                Feb 15, 2012 12:33 AM PKT Qusai AlShatti
                                wrote:>Dear Salenieta:>Yes they
                                were there.>>Qusai>>On Tue,
                                Feb 14, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Salanieta T.
                                Tamanikaiwaimaro <><a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>>

                                wrote:>>> I am just wondering
                                whether the UAE ICT regulators were also
                                there at the>> planning. If not, I
                                am happy to facilitate the introduction?
                                Let me
                                know.>>>>>>>> On
                                Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:27 AM, Qusai
                                AlShatti <<a href="mailto:qshatti@gmail.com" target="_blank">qshatti@gmail.com</a>>

                                wrote:>>>> Dear
                                Khaled:>> We wish that you were
                                there with us in Beirut. The open
                                consultation were>> conducted in
                                an open transparent inclusive
                                multistakeholder process were>>
                                all participants from all
                                multistakeholder groups actively engaged
                                in an>> equal manner in discussing
                                the Arab IGF and in drafting the
                                outcomes of the>> open
                                consultations. I don't have the list of
                                final participants but all>>
                                stakehlders groups from the Arab World
                                were represented. Actually we>>
                                requested the ESCWA and<br>
                                <div> LAS before the meeting to ensure
                                  a>> multistakeholders
                                  representation in the open
                                  consultations. A public>>
                                  announcement was made for this
                                  purpose. Furthemore when the
                                  open>> consultation was
                                  requested by the Arab ministers of
                                  communication, they>> requested
                                  that it should be conducted in a
                                  multistakeholder
                                  format.>>>> We look
                                  forward for your participation in the
                                  Arab IGF and its
                                  process.>>>>
                                  Regards,>>>> Qusai
                                  AlShatti>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012
                                  at 4:57 PM, khaled koubaa <<a href="mailto:khaled.koubaa@gmail.com" target="_blank">khaled.koubaa@gmail.com</a>>wrote:>>>>>

                                  Hi Qusai,>>> Could you please
                                  share with us the list of participants
                                  at that meeting>>> in
                                  Lebanon.>>> I have real
                                  concern with contnuous oversight of
                                  some gov-organizations>>> of
                                  the Arab IGF without real
                                  multistakeholders
                                  involvment.>>> Thank
                                  you,>>>>>> Khaled
                                  Koubaa>>>>>> Sent by
                                  an Android phone>>> Le 14
                                  févr. 2012 11:41, "Salanieta T.
                                  Tamanikaiwaimaro" <>>> <a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>>

                                  a écrit :>>>>>> We
                                  warmly congratulate this<br>
                                </div>
                                 development and look forward to
                                including>>> this in our
                                Calendar.>>>>>> On
                                Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Qusai
                                AlShatti <<a href="mailto:qshatti@gmail.com" target="_blank">qshatti@gmail.com</a>>wrote:>>>>>>>

                                Dear Colleagues:>>>> I would
                                like to take the opportunity to announce
                                the establshment of>>>> the
                                Arab IGF (AIGF). The first meeting of
                                AIGF will be organized by
                                Kuwait>>>> Information
                                Technology Society which will be held in
                                Kuwait on the first>>>> week
                                of October 2012. I am attaching the AIGF
                                announcement.>>>>>>>>>>>>

                                *Announcement
                                of*>>>>>>>> *The
                                endorsement of the Arab Internet
                                Governance Forum (AIGF)
                                process*>>>>>>>>
                                A Multistakeholder open consultation
                                meeting to discuss the launch
                                of>>>> the Arab Internet
                                Governance Forum (AIGF) was held during
                                the period of>>>> 31/1 –
                                1/2/2012 in Beirut, Lebanon. The open
                                consultation was organized
                                by>>>> the League of Arab
                                States (LAS), the United Nation Economic
                                and Social>>>> Commission of
                                Western Asia (ESCWA) and the Council of
                                Ministers of the>>>><br>
                                <div> Republic of Lebanon. The open
                                  consultation was sponsored by
                                  Kuwait>>>> Information
                                  Technology Society and RIPE NCC and
                                  was attended by the
                                  IGF>>>> secretariat. More
                                  than 50 participants representing
                                  stakeholders from>>>>
                                  governments, private sector, civil
                                  society and regional organizations
                                  in>>>> the Arab World
                                  attended the open consultation and
                                  engaged actively in>>>>
                                  discussing the importance of an
                                  Internet Governance Forum for the
                                  Arab>>>>
                                  World.>>>>>>>>
                                  The open consultation was carried
                                  based on the request of the
                                  Arab>>>> Telecommunication
                                  and Information Technology Council of
                                  Ministers (ATICM)>>>> to
                                  seek feedback from various
                                  stakeholders on the need for an Arab
                                  IGF. The>>>> ministers
                                  requested it after receiving the
                                  outcome of an expert
                                  group>>>> meeting that was
                                  organized by the ESCWA in October 2010
                                  which emphasized on>>>>
                                  the need to have a dialogue on
                                  Internet Governance with relevance
                                  to>>>> stakeholders in the
                                  Arab
                                  World.>>>>>>>>
                                  During<br>
                                </div>
                                 the open consultations, a strong
                                consent emerged on the
                                need>>>> and the importance
                                for the Arab IGF especially with the
                                turn of events in>>>> the
                                region and the major role of the
                                Internet in these events. A
                                report>>>> recommending the
                                establishment of AIGF was drafted by the
                                participants and>>>>
                                forwarded by the LAS Secretariat to the
                                Executive Bureau of the
                                Arab>>>> Telecommunication
                                and Information Technology Council of
                                Ministers (ATICM)>>>> on
                                2/2/2012, who welcomed the outcome,
                                endorsed it and recommended
                                the>>>> active participation
                                of all stakeholders, including
                                governments, in the>>>> Arab
                                IGF
                                process.>>>>>>>>
                                The participants in the open
                                consultations focused also on the
                                goals>>>> of the AIGF and
                                its structure. There was consent to
                                adopt a structure>>>>
                                similar to the IGF’s current structure
                                with a secretariat and a>>>>
                                Multistakeholder Advisory Committee
                                (MAG). *A proposal was made
                                by>>>> Kuwait Information
                                Technology Society to host the<br>
                                 First Arab IGF in
                                Kuwait>>>> in early October
                                2012 and a proposal was made by the
                                Republic of Egypt>>>>
                                National Telecommunication Regulatory
                                Authority to be the AIGF
                                secretariat>>>> *. There was
                                an agreement and consent on both
                                proposals by the>>>>
                                participants. It was agreed that a
                                public announcement for the
                                MAG>>>> membership will be
                                made to give the opportunity for all
                                stakeholders in the>>>> Arab
                                world to express their interest to
                                participate in
                                it.>>>>>>>> The
                                open consultation recommended that the
                                AIGF
                                should:>>>>>>>>
                                ·         Focus on discussing public
                                policies related to
                                Internet>>>> Governance
                                especially in the areas of access,
                                stability, security and>>>>
                                development.>>>>>>>>
                                ·         Facilitate the exchange of
                                information, best
                                practices,>>>> knowledge and
                                lessons learned by involving experts,
                                technical community and>>>>
                                Academics.>>>>>>>>
                                ·         Gather different opinions and
                                build consensus for
                                unified>>>> Arab views on
                                priorities<br>
                                <div> and on mechanisms to respond to
                                  Arab countries>>>> needs
                                  related to Internet governance
                                  issues.>>>>>>>>
                                  ·         Discuss emerging issues and
                                  present recommendations on
                                  it.>>>>>>>> ·
                                          Build and develop capacity in
                                  Internet Governance as
                                  well>>>> as improve the
                                  participation of all stakeholders to
                                  benefit from all>>>>
                                  possible resources of knowledge and
                                  expertise.>>>>>>>>
                                  ·         Communicate globally the
                                  Arab positions and enhance
                                  the>>>> Arab role in
                                  formulating Internet Governance
                                  policies.>>>>>>>>
                                  ·         Outreach with the Internet
                                  Governance Forum and
                                  other>>>> regional IGFs
                                  with purpose of exchanging knowledge
                                  and
                                  expertise.>>>>>>>>
                                  ____________________________________________________________>>>>

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