<span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span class="hps">Hello</span> <span class="hps">Williams</span><span>,</span><br><br> <span class="hps">I</span> <span class="hps">acquired</span> <span class="hps">your point of view</span> <span class="hps">because </span></span><span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span class="hps">in fact</span> <span class="hps">a</span> <span class="hps">good communication</span> <span class="hps">in a country like</span> <span class="hps">within a</span> <span class="hps">community</span> <span class="hps">is one of the</span> <span class="hps">prime factors</span> <span class="hps">in</span> <span class="hps">all human relationships</span><span class=""></span></span><span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span class="hps"></span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">The concerns raised</span> <span class="hps">last</span> <span class="hps">time</span> <span class="hps">this</span> <span class="hps">is not just</span> <span class="hps">the</span> <span class="hps">politicians, scientists</span><span class="">, technicians</span> <span class="hps">but</span> <span class="hps">different social groups</span> <span class="hps">represented</span> <span class="hps">by the various</span> <span class="hps">entities</span> <span class="hps">of civil society</span> <span class="hps">must also be involved</span> <span class="hps">in discussions</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">With this in</span> <span class="hps">mind,</span> <span class="hps">respecting</span> <span class="hps">building on</span> <span class="hps">the principle</span> <span class="hps">of</span> <span class="hps">multistakeholderism</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">we thought</span> <span class="hps">our exchanges</span> <span class="hps">organized</span> <span class="hps">locally</span> <span class="hps">by relying on</span> <span class="hps">academic institutions</span><span>, private sector</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">ICT</span> <span class="hps">technicians</span><span>, international agencies</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">subregional and regional</span> <span class="hps">active instiutions in the country</span> <span class="hps">with</span> <span class="hps">civil</span> <span class="hps">society entities</span> <span class="hps">that represent the</span> <span class="hps">users</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">ie</span> <span class="hps">consumers</span> <span class="hps">of ICT</span><span>.</span><br>
<span class="hps">Institutions designated</span> <span class="hps">by combining</span> <span class="hps">academic</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">we have 80</span><span>% chance to</span> <span class="hps">set up</span> <span class="hps">hub</span> <span class="hps">to allow people</span> <span class="hps">of the DRC</span> <span class="hps">to participate remotely</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">each</span> <span class="hps">as</span> <span class="hps">possible,</span> <span class="hps">in discussions</span> <span class="hps">at local,</span> <span class="hps">sub</span> <span class="hps">regional</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">regional and international levels</span><span>.<br>
<br></span> <span class="hps">This process</span> <span class="hps">requires very good</span> <span class="hps">planning and</span> <span class="hps">that's what</span> <span class="hps">we have already begun</span><span class="">.<br>
</span></span><span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span class="hps"></span></span><br><span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span class="hps">The language aspect</span> <span class="hps">is also in the</span> <span class="hps">privileged position</span> <span class="hps">because in</span> <span class="hps">this world</span> <span class="hps">of knowledge</span> <span class="hps">said</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">the language of communication</span> <span class="hps">has</span> <span class="hps">its very high</span> <span class="hps">up</span><span>.</span><br>
<span class="hps">The national IGF</span> <span class="hps">is</span> <span class="hps">a</span>n indispensable<span class="hps"></span> <span class="hps">support</span><span class="hps"> and essential</span> <span class="hps">for</span> <span class="hps">IGF</span> <span class="hps">subregional, regional</span> <span class="hps">and international levels.</span><br>
<br> <span class="hps">Nothing durable</span> <span class="hps">can</span> <span class="hps">be designed</span> <span class="hps">if the</span> <span class="hps">nationals IGF</span> <span class="hps"> are not</span> <span class="hps">considered</span> <span class="hps">base</span> <span class="hps">in</span> <span class="hps">all these approaches</span><span>.</span><span class="hps"></span></span><br>
<span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><br> <span class="hps">It is for</span> <span class="hps">this reason that even</span> <span class="hps">the level of funding</span><span>,</span> <span class="hps">the participation of</span> <span class="hps">active and useful</span> <span class="hps">really</span> <span class="hps">is becoming</span> <span class="hps">more</span> <span class="hps">problematic</span> <span class="hps">in</span> <span class="hps">developing</span> <span class="hps">countries</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">We must</span> <span class="hps">think about it.</span><br>
<span class="hps">We do not</span> <span class="hps">need the</span> <span class="hps">extras</span><span>.</span> <span class="hps">Official delegations</span> <span class="hps">present but</span> <span class="hps">physically absent</span> <span class="hps">in the debates</span> <span class="hps">or</span> <span class="hps">without any</span> <span class="hps">relevant contributions</span> <span class="hps">must</span> <span class="hps">also be</span> <span class="hps">raised</span> <span class="hps">even if</span> <span class="hps">it</span> <span class="hps">is already</span> <span class="hps">always</span> <span class="hps">use</span> <span class="hps">the emblematic</span> <span class="hps">issue of</span> <span class="hps atn">"</span><span class="">sovereignty</span><span>"</span><span>.<br>
</span></span><span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><br> <span class="hps">It should</span> <span class="hps">also</span> <span class="hps">assess</span> <span class="hps">the active participation of</span> <span class="hps">official delegations</span><span>.</span></span><br>
<span id="result_box" class="long_text" lang="en"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)" class="hps"><br><span style="background-color:rgb(51,255,51)">In short</span></span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(51,255,51)"> </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(51,255,51)" class="hps">we need</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(51,255,51)"> </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(51,255,51)" class="hps">to</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(51,255,51)"> </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(51,255,51)" class="hps">talk</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(51,255,51)"> </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(51,255,51)" class="hps">and not</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(51,255,51)"> </span><span class="hps"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:rgb(51,255,51)">exclude us.<br>
<br></span><br clear="all"></span></span>SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN<br><br>Téléphone mobile:+243998983491<br>email : <a href="mailto:b.schombe@gmail.com" target="_blank">b.schombe@gmail.com</a><br>skype : b.schombe<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/14 Deirdre Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com">williams.deirdre@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I should have sent this to the list yesterday.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Sorry it's so long.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Deirdre</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Comments from me and on submissions made by
others:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">There
appears to be a need to change perspective. There has been a shift so
that now development is not only an issue between countries – north and south –
but can also be a stratification issue within countries – a rich developed top
layer and a poor underdeveloped lower layer both in the north and in the south.
This needs to be recognised.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Remote participation (RP) needs an improved
status. This is both a technology issue and a recognition issue. The technology
must make it possible, and the recognition should as far as possible give it
equal status. There also need to be excellent remote participation moderators
to act as interface at meetings. And the issue of linguistic inclusion also
needs to be addressed with the possibility of several moderators covering
several different languages. I know this is a lot to ask for but equality is
not just an Anglophone quality. Perhaps initially willing face to face
participants could be ‘conscripted’ to provide inclusion in their various
languages.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">ISOC</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Remote participation</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The growth in the number of remote hubs and
the increase of remote participants that </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">went with remote hubs is a basis to build
on to overcome the challenge and cost </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">of travel to attend meetings. – agree 100%</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">National Regional IGFs</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">There is a need to enhance the exchange of
reports between these two interfaces to </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">continue and grow going forward. –
definitely – perhaps a mechanism to do this could be set up – or encouraged and
improved?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Funding</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">This model acts as a feedback mechanism,
demonstrating that the IGF is of value to its participants. – I have grave
concerns where value is always equated with money.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">we view the Internet as an enabler for a
wide range of human rights, such as the right to freedom of expression and
opinion and access to information and knowledge as well as the right to
association - agree</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">filtering
be part of the main agenda of the
2012 IGF. DNS filtering is increasingly used by governments to combat allegedly
illegal online activities, and this technical measure raises strong concerns,
not only with regard to the underlying Internet architecture, but also with
regard to due legal process and human rights, while not solving the problems at
their source. – this is certainly an issue, but I also find John Carr’s
arguments re blocking in the context of child pornography very convincing. How
to reconcile the unreconcilable?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">APC</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">In Nairobi,
a concrete proposal to create a global internet governance body was put on the</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">table by governments from developing
countries (the IBSA proposal) , which resulted in</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">exactly the kind of intense and diverse
debate that the IGF was created for. APC applauds this kind of active
agenda-setting of developing countries as a positive step to counteract
exclusion and the predominance of developed country agendas as the typical
starting points for discussion. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">However as we see it the question about the
best way to discuss development in relation to internet governance remains
unanswered – this is what triggered my first comment (see above) </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red" lang="EN-GB">(Change the perspective –
not so much countries, more social strata)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The need for
clearly-defined rules within which to operate, and an appropriate level of</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">transparency was also
highlighted - yes</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">if data discrimination
for mobile internet is a technical necessity, then policy-makers must define
and clearly outline the principles for governing such practices. – yes, and
there should be general harmonisation of policy as much as possible. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">However, high prices remain a problem. Electricity is still widely unavailable and mobile
phones are often prohibitively expensive for the poorest in society, and prices
for mobile subscriptions are artificially high due to licensing fees and
competition issues. There is an urgent need for these critical barriers to
universal mobile internet to be addressed through communications policy and
strategy – yes. At least in Saint
Lucia there is a government tax of 15% on
mobile services – a very healthy revenue generator.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">the issue of conflict minerals needs to be
on the agenda for the next IGF. Policy-makers must establish clear guidelines
and legislation that address issues of traceability, accountability and
responsibility in the mineral procurement chain. – this also needs greater public awareness.
Can this be taken together with the issue of ICT waste and recycling?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">internet intermediary liability, the impact
of restrictions on freedom of expression and association, and responding to
violence against women online. - yes</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">freedom of association online needs to be assigned
the same level of importance as freedom of expression has in IGF debates.
Indeed the two are inextricably linked and interdependent. - YES</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Balance between intellectual property
rights and access to knowledge -YES</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Disparities in access between rich and
poor, urban and rural areas serve to exacerbate existing social inequalities. –
see my first point above</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">human rights be the main theme of IGF in
2012 – good idea</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">internet access as a human right, freedom
of expression and freedom of association. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Human rights topics which became visible
for the first time at the IGF included:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">• a human rights approach to mobile</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">• remedies for internet rights violations</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">• human rights and corporate responsibility</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">• the rights of disabled people and young
people.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red" lang="EN-GB">(who speaks for whom?
Profile of mag; consider the person or
consider the ideas; do outward and visible signs automatically contain the
inferred inward and spiritual grace? In other words how to balance the
individual profile of the representative with the broader profile of the
constituency represented)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Human rights is the
framework with which we judge the merits of ICT policy. To us internet governance
has to assume a rights-based framework. Business and technical decisions do not
exist in a vacuum; they must be informed and measured by respect for the rights
and wellbeing of the people who will be using technology</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">We need more
cross-pollination between business, law enforcement, civil society and the</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">technical communities. Rather than talking about each other, we
should be speaking to each other – YES AND YES AND YES</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">NRO</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Remote Participation
was improved in 2011 compared to 2010, but there is still much to be </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">done to improve this
important tool for strengthening accessibility. – see above</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">• Continue to encourage
Regional Hubs and support greater direct participation between them </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">and the IGF sessions in
order to allow a bidirectional flow of discussions – see above</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Build a link between
Regional IG discussions and the MAG for feedback and information </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Sharing – see above</span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p><div><br></div>-- <br>“The fundamental cure for poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics, 1979<br>
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