<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Marilia,<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>What I mean by my earlier comment is that I believe that IGC MAG candidates should not only have extensive linkages within one's own stakeholder group, but also have experience engaging in a multi-stakeholder fashion to advance civil society positions. It isn't enough just presenting our views, we also need to work with others in a diplomatic and constructive fashion. There will be areas of disagreement, but likely too there will be key areas of common interest that can be advanced.</div><div><br></div><div>The secretariat, though well intentioned, is under resourced and counts on the support of MAG members to not only develop the annual IGF program but also to fundraise. As such, I would also add another skill that should be sought, that being the ability to engage with donors to help identify and possibly secure funding to support civil society participation at consultations and the annual IGF.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><br></div><div>Robert</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">R. Guerra</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/netfreedom">twitter.com/netfreedom</a> <br>Email: <a href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</a></div></span></div></span></div></span></span>
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<br><div><div>On 2012-02-03, at 7:58 AM, Marilia Maciel wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi Robert and all,<div><br></div><div>I raised the discussion about what is being currently debated in the WG on IGF improvements regarding MAG. I probably should have responded to this thread here, but it is under "selection of MAG-urgent".</div>
<div>You raised important points regarding the criteria of selection, Robert. I believe that "experience on IG issues" and "active participation in the IGF" are covered there, but I am not sure what you mean by multistakeholder support. We are considering so far that MAG candidates should have "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Extensive linkages within one's own stakeholder group and, if possible, to other stakeholder groups". Not sure if this covers what you pointed out.</span></div>
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</span></font><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Robert Guerra <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Wolfgang,<br>
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A question that first needs to be answered is what regional system will be used to select MAG members.<br>
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The Western European and Others Group (WEOG) is one of several unofficial Regional Groups in the United Nations that act as voting blocs and negotiation forums. It's been used in the past, and my guess is that it might be the system taken into consideration in the MAG selection process.<br>
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ref - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_and_Others_Group" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_and_Others_Group</a><br>
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I would hope that gender and region of origin aren't the only selection factors. Hopefully language skills, IGF experience, and multi-stakeholder support (if any) are also taken into consideration.<br>
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The even larger question at this point is - when will the new MAG members be announced. Will we know in advance of the consultation in Feb, or will that decision come afterwards..<br>
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On 2012-02-02, at 2:00 PM, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:<br>
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> Hi<br>
><br>
> just to add one point:<br>
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> In ICANNs NomCom we made a difference between citizenship and residence and it was up to the candidate to select whether he wanted to be treated on citizenship or residence.<br>
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> In the Case of Bill Drake - I strongly support his nomination - I think he should be treated as European. He lives in Europe since more than ten years. He was a member of the Board of EURALO. He was invited as a European expert by the Council of Europe and he teaches at the University of Zürich and in the European Summer School on Internet Governnace.<br>
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> Best wishes<br>
><br>
> wolfgang<br>
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> Von: <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a> im Auftrag von Valeria Betancourt<br>
> Gesendet: Do 02.02.2012 09:21<br>
> An: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
> Betreff: Re: [governance] Fwd: MAG and CSTD WG meetings<br>
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> Hi Bill,<br>
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> You are right. We presented APC's nominations to the NomCom for consideration on Jan 20th.<br>
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> Valeria<br>
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> On 02/02/2012, at 3:13, William Drake wrote:<br>
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> Hi<br>
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> On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Adam Peake wrote:<br>
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> I'll also be in Geneva.<br>
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> And I live here.<br>
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> My thanks to the nomcom for including me. Of course, since IGC and APC both nominated me three times prior, there's obviously no guarantee that UN NY will change its apparent practice of reserving any slots for US citizens for TC and business, but it's nice to be nominated anyway.<br>
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> On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:31 AM, parminder wrote:<br>
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> I may be wrong, but I seem not to have seen the kind of openness (proactive and not just formal), transparency, out-reach effort etc that is required for the nomination/ election activity.<br>
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> I agree with others there should be clearer procedures and reporting requirements for IGC's nomcoms, as there are inter alia for ICANN's. This has been a recurrent issue not only with the selection of MAG candidates, but also the WGIGF and if I recall correctly WGIG...<br>
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> Things like: we need to make repeated calls for nomination, encourage people to nominate themselves and others,<br>
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> There were messages on the list from Jacqueline, Sala, I believe Izumi, maybe others...? Maybe more of an ongoing thread would have been desirable....<br>
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> pulbicize the process and perhaps the list of nomcom members as well, make active out reach to various CS entities inviting nomination, keeping the list posted of all developments, ......<br>
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> Sure<br>
><br>
><br>
> For instance, APC I am sure will forward its own slate of names to the IGF secretariat. They should have been invited to submit their nominees for IGC nomcom's consideration as well (and this has happened in the past).<br>
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><br>
> Valeria can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe APC did submit these to IGC and report them on the list. They included<br>
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> Africa: Anriette Esterhuysen, Association for Progressive Communications, South Africa<br>
> Asia: Shahzad Ahmad, BytesForAll, Pakistan<br>
> LAC: Magaly Pazello, Center on Communication and Emergence, Brazil; Carlos Afonso, Instituto Nupef, Brazil<br>
> North America and Europe: William Drake, University of Zurich, Switzerland; David Souter, ict Development Associates, United Kingdom<br>
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> Speaking of transparency, it would also be nice to have some idea how UN NY makes its selections, but we've been saying that for six years to no end...<br>
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> Best,<br>
><br>
> Bill<br>
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