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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>FYI<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/ieeeinsights/2012/01/18/the-role-of-technology-in-taking-a-stand/">http://www.forbes.com/sites/ieeeinsights/2012/01/18/the-role-of-technology-in-taking-a-stand/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lorena Jaume-Palasí<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>___________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Department of political Theory (Prof. Dr. Karsten Fischer)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Geschwister Scholl Institute for Political Sciences.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ludwig Maximilians University<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> governance@lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Brice Abba<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2012 00:35<br><b>An:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; lehto.paul@gmail.com<br><b>Betreff:</b> RE: [governance] Cerfing the Web, or Serfing the Web? (Understanding Google's Internet Evangelism against Internet Access Rights)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Daniel, <br>+1<br>:)<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: <a href="mailto:daniel@digsys.bg">daniel@digsys.bg</a><br>Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:25:37 +0200<br>To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; <a href="mailto:lehto.paul@gmail.com">lehto.paul@gmail.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [governance] Cerfing the Web, or Serfing the Web? (Understanding Google's Internet Evangelism against Internet Access Rights)<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On Jan 17, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Paul Lehto wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Question: Why would <b>humans</b> understand and support <b><i>property</i> rights</b> on the Internet, but not understand or support <b>human</b> <b>rights</b> on the Internet? <br><br>Answer: Businesses <i>pay</i> humans to advocate for business property rights, and to steer clear of advocating for human rights on the Internet except where absolutely necessary or supportive of the business' bottom line. Take away the voices (in our imagination) of those on the payroll of various businesses, and there would be every bit, if not more, acceptance of human rights on the Internet as there presently is for property rights on the Internet. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I am still confused by all this. Perhaps it is some "western" type of thinking, but it just does not make sense to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The same thing as when you argued about corporations being evil.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Property rights is one of the human rights. How could property rights be against other human rights?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>If it is a matter of balance, or rather a need for humans to exist, then one can say for sure, that humans can exist without Internet. They can also exist without property. They can for some time to survive even without food, or water. I believe humans will survive least without air to breathe… <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>My "fear" of declaring "access to Internet" is centered towards the abuse we see every day with regards to "human rights". Many are killed daily, in the name of "human rights". Countries are being invaded and drawn to war in the name of "human rights"…. to name few.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Of course, everyone has the right to access the Internet. Call it human right or not.. it is just a choice of wording. In another language, in another culture it might mean something else. Even in the same language/culture it might mean something else with a different Government. We have seen this all the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>But in order to access the Internet, it has to be accessible to everyone. That means less regulation.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Daniel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>