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On Wednesday 18 January 2012 02:06 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, parminder <span
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<font face="sans-serif">I request to amend one thing in the
following
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<blockquote>We urge all stakeholders of internet governance to
encourage dialogue to help governments, members of the private sector
and civil society to engage in dialogue to discuss how we can preserve
the openness of the internet.<br>
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<div>The rationale behind this is that civil society is leading the
discussion and dialogue already hence it being last in this instance.
The positioning does not diminish the significance of civil society in
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Sala, you have a point in this case, although I still prefer the right
order. After all, it is not that we are 'the' civil society that is
making this call. Anyway, mentioning business sector before civil
society is becoming the norm in information society discourse, and I
see it in sinister terms. In all other global political discourses,
especially in the UN documents, it is always civil society before
private sector actors. The standing of civil society is much different
and higher in terms of public interest political actors than of the
private sector. <br>
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Parminder <br>
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<div>Thanks Parminder, we will remember the point you are
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It is the convention in global bodies to mention civil society before
private sector, and we as CS-IGC shd at least do it. (Official docs of
WSIS and post WSIS processes have been an aberration (with a
significant meaning) to this custom.) <br>
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On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:31 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
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<blockquote type="cite">Fantastic work Jeremy, thanks. :)
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<div>The mailing list will still be active but our website will
join
the strike. Katitza, likewise you can also mention the IGC site in your
website as well.</div>
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<div>Sala<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Jeremy
Malcolm <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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