Apologies, had first typed, "Thanks Ivan for picking that up"...then deleted it to shorten the comment...apologies for the typo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Thanks Ivar f:)<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Ivar A. M. Hartmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivarhartmann@gmail.com" target="_blank">ivarhartmann@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Thank you for summing it up, Salanieta! Let me just point that in addition to the ISPs' freedom to conduct business and consumer privacy, the <i>freedom to receive or impart information</i> was also weighed against the right to property. <br>
Best,<br>Ivar<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 21:41, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Actually the significance of this Judgment is in relation to how they dealt with the prioritisation of rights, that is the rights if intellectual property owners, the rights of ISPs to conduct their business freely and the rights of consumers to privacy. "The injunction requiring installation of the contested filtering system involve a systematic analysis of all content <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">[ISPs cannot afford this and at the end of the day, this cost would be borne by customers somehow]</span> and the collection and identification of users' IP addresses from which unlawful content on the network is sent. Those addresses are protected personal data because they allow those users to be precisely identified". (Highlighted portion is mine)</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">The consideration in how the Judges arrived at their decision is on [para 52, 53] where there is no guarantee that lawful content would not be blocked. After considering all the rights stemming from the Directives listed in para 55, the courts held in favour of "privacy" of consumers that is fundamental rights trumping when reading all of the Directives together. Although the European Court of Justice recommended that harmonization take place.</div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div>Dear All,</div><div><br></div><div>I found this Judgment interesting in the wake of the controversies surrounding SOPA. </div>
<div><br></div><div>There are some interesting developments by the European Court of Justice on the prioritisation of rights, where</div>
<div>EU law precludes the imposition of an injunction by a national court which requires an Internet Service Provider (ISP) to install a filtering system with a view to preventing the illegal downloading of files, see the Press Release: <a href="http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2011-11/cp110126en.pdf" target="_blank">http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2011-11/cp110126en.pdf</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>The actual Judgment that was just released on the 24th November, 2011 is available here: <a href="http://curia.europa.eu/jurisp/cgi-bin/form.pl?lang=EN&Submit=Submit&numaff=C-70/10" target="_blank">http://curia.europa.eu/jurisp/cgi-bin/form.pl?lang=EN&Submit=Submit&numaff=C-70/10</a> </div>
<div><br></div><div>The judgment of course is available in a host of European languages.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind Regards,</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>
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