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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Avri,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>With reference to bottom-up decision and support, I would say that first bottom up decision made by the DNS Stability Panel, and forwarded it to ICANN, and Second bottom-up support is ccNSO about FT Review, see the following document, where this point has been detained with the arguments of ccNSO. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The public voices were unable to hear after ccNSO comments.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Imran Ahmed Shah<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>2. Summary of Comments <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>ICANN received input on the IDN ccTLD Fast Track Review from individual Internet users, the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>DNS technical community, APRALO, the Hong Kong Internet Registration Corporation <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>(HKIRC) and the Country Code Names Supporting Organization (ccNSO). An analysis of these <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>comments along with ICANN recommendations is provided below. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Main Themes <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>1. A large number of comments were received from individuals and entities in the Bulgarian <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Internet community, asking that ICANN re-evaluate the Bulgarian IDN ccTLD request for <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>.bg in Cyrillic. Many questioned the transparency of the decision that found the applied for <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Bulgarian string was too similar to .br. Several commenters proposed that the requested <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>string is not confusable with “.br.” The commenters further proposed that because the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>proposed string is not confusable with .br, the applied-for string should be accepted by <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>ICANN within the Fast Track Process. <span style='color:red'>Alternatively, the Country Code Names Supporting <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:red'>Organization (ccNSO) stated that disputes and objection/re-evaluation are policy issues that <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:red'>should not be addressed through an amendment to the Fast Track Process. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>2. The ccNSO, APRALO, HKIRC and Jothan Frakes commended the successful launch of the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Fast Track process. The ccNSO and HKIRC noted that the transparency in the process was <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>appropriate and maintaining confidentiality during string evaluation allows requesting <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>countries and territories to resolve issues of public authority and community-support without <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>undue politicization of the process. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>3. Several members of the DNS technical community noted issues with the treatment of IDN <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>tables. One comment suggested that it was time for ICANN to stop publishing the IANA<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:red'>Repository. Several noted that this inserts ICANN into registry naming policy. The ccNSO <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:red'>stated that this was a policy issue not appropriately addressed in ICANN implementation <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:red'>processes. One comment stated that ICANN should not engage in or actively foster the <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:red'>management of IDN tables. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>4. Several commenters noted that the Fast Track was intended to be for clear cases and noncontroversial requests. <br>If the Fast Track process is to continue, issues with confusable strings <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>as mentioned in the comments, will continue to arise. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>5. Several commenters raised the issue of variants. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The comment forum can be viewed at <a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/fast-track-review-2010/">http://forum.icann.org/lists/fast-track-review-2010/</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><img border=0 width=590 height=534 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CC9FDE.97800F50"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> -----Original Message-----</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> From: governance@lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org] On</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Behalf Of Avri Doria</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 06:28 PM</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> To: IGC</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Subject: Re: [governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .?? (.bg) similar to other</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Latin ccTLDs?</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Hi,</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I was in Bulgaria for the domain.forun at which Rod spoke.</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Of course I do not know what Rod and Parvanov spoke about. But in other</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> statements Rod, and Veni both made, they hid behind the bottom-up</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> process and stated that it was rejected because of the bottom-up process</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> and said that if the Bulgarians and Greeks wanted to change the rules they</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> needed to go back to the ccNSO. It is amazing how many time they invoked</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> bottom-up process to defend unpopular Staff decisions - it was the mantra</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> of the day.</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Of course they never spoke of what bottom-up decisions they were talking</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> about. Was there a bottom-up decision about what sort of things were</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> confusing similar? Was there a bottom-up decision about a lack of</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> transparency and the absence of an appeal of an arbitrary decision or an</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> extended review procedure? No, these are ICANN implementation details. I</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> was an observer of the ccNSO group that made recommendations, and these</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> issues never came up. And for the GNSO, no matter how much the bottom-</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> up process has requested an extended review for confusing similarity, it has</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> been rejected by the ICANN Staff. ICANN Staff has decided on its own that it</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> is supreme when it comes to harmful confusing similarity. I remember no</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> bottom-up decisions giving ICANN staff supremacy in any topic, let alone this</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> one.</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Another disturbing thing came up during these meetings. There was a new</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> notion introduced by those who spoke for ICANN. I must note that I may</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> have misunderstood it because some of it came from ICANN Staffers</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> speaking in Bulgarian so I only heard a translation, but it sounded like the</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> following:</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> In any review of Cyrillic or Greek characters, not only do they have to worry</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> about existing LDH (letter digit hyphen) ASCII TLDs, but also myst complete</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> with potential LDH ASCII that might be applied for some day. This notion was</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> extend not only to un-allocated ISO 2 character designations but to any</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Cyrillic or Greek TLD that may look similar to LDH characters.</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I.e. the notion I got out was that if the Cyrillic or Greek looks anything like</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> ASCII, they can't have it. ASCII trumps all. While this is bad, considering the</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> stretch ICANN Staff makes when making these decision (б looks like b -</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> really???), it is really awful. From the discussions I understood this would</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> apply in gTLDS as much as it does in ccTLDs.</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> If I understood correctly, this is a bad thing, and this issue of .бг is just the tip</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> of the iceberg of a really serious defect in the ICANN process for new TLDs.</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> avri</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> On 9 Nov 2011, at 10:06, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > As I can see from the ICANN website, ICANNs Rod Beckstrom had a</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> meeting with the Bulgarian president Mr. Parvanow, the day before</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> yesterday (November 7). Did the Bulgarian president raise the issue of .bg</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> and what was Beckstroem response?</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> ></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > Thanks</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> ></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > wolfgang</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> ></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> __________________________________________________________</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> __</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > You received this message as a subscriber on the list:</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>governance@lists.cpsr.org</span></a></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > To be removed from the list, visit:</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</span></a></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> ></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > For all other list information and functions, see:</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > <a href="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance</span></a></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.igcaucus.org/</span></a></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> ></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> > Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://translate.google.com/translate_t</span></a></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> ></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> __________________________________________________________</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> __</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>governance@lists.cpsr.org</span></a></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> To be removed from the list, visit:</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</span></a></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> For all other list information and functions, see:</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance</span></a></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:</p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.igcaucus.org/</span></a></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> </p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://translate.google.com/translate_t</span></a></p></div></body></html>