<div class="gmail_quote">2011/11/2 Louis Pouzin (well) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pouzin@well.com">pouzin@well.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Unless visually impaired, anyone should be able to tell <b>.бг</b> from <b>.br</b><br>see attachment.<br><br></blockquote><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3333ff">I need glasses to read :) but can still tell the difference between <b>.бг</b> and<b> </b><b>.br :)</b></font></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">However, visually normal people can't tell <b>.lt </b>(Italy) from <b>.It</b> (Lithuania)<br><br></blockquote><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3333ff">I agree :) The more comments and submissions made on the issue would be great and received an email from George offline and he is in the middle of reading the report. It would be great if we could compile all the issues we have the with IDN variant reports or problems that people have with policy processes so these issues can be raised etc. </font></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">The problem is with ICANN, not with Cyrillic.<br></blockquote><div> <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3333ff">The issue is not the language but how as policy makers or part of the policy formulation process are the end users protected. What are some considerations that policy writers will have to factor in when making these decisions etc. I have asked George for assistance in getting as many from the Cyrillic speaking and writing community to comment on the report.</font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3333ff"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3333ff">Best,</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3333ff"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3333ff">Sala</font></div>
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- - -<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 14:21, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear George and others,<div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">The relevance of IDNs to Internet Governance are in the "<i>multilingualism</i>" policy category that was defined in the WGIG 2005 document. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">I was going through the archives and found your email. You may be interested in reading the Study Reports on the various variants, they are open for comments and submissions, see:</span></div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">I listened to certain speakers speak about <span style="background-color:rgb(84, 133, 189);color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-repeat:initial initial">IDN</span> variants which are so very exciting and interesting. You can access and view their study reports via <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/" style="font-family:arial;font-size:small" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/</a> The Cyrillic variant report is open for comments until 16th November, 2011. Other variant reports are also there (Arabic, Chinese, Greek, Latin etc). If you want to get submissions in and quick, now is the time! :)</div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">It is so interesting to see how certain scripts are politically charged, the similarity in phonetics or confusingly similar script. Whilst IDNs have been around for some time, I am sensing that it will only accelerate in its prominence in the not too distant future.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The existing ITU model has closed memberships and this is true even for the Dedicated Working Group on International Internet Related Public Policy issues. This is a </span><b style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">closed group</b><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I might add. Is there anyone on this list that is a member of this group I would be interested to ask some policy questions on the subject matter and we can discuss offlist.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I am on record for asking At Large whether there is some level of interface between ICANN and this Dedicated Working Group. This Dedicated Working Group was established under Resolution 75. Membership is only exclusive for member states and the current chair is Mr Majed Al Mazyed from Saudi Arabia. </span></div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">Resolution 133 deals from the ITU Plenipotentiary deals with the role of administrations of member states in the management of internationalized(</span><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">multilingual) domain names. [see </span><a href="http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/intgov/resoultions_2010/PP-10/RESOLUTION_133.pdf" style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(17, 65, 112)" target="_blank">http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/intgov/resoultions_2010/PP-10/RESOLUTION_133.pdf</a><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">] </span></div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">I should also state that the 2009 Council Resolution 1305 [which we are denied access unless you are a member state invited Member States to recognise the scope of the work of ITU on international Internet-related public policy matters.] I will say that the approach of the ITU to close discussions on internet policy and limit it to member states is worrying. 2012 will be a critical year within the ITU as they will be revising alot of resolutions and positions etc to "make it more relevant".</div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">I am not in anyway criticising ITU and have <b><u>great respect</u></b> for the degree of capacity building and recognise the role that they play but I strongly disagree with the policy exclusionary development processes within the ITU. The ICC also publicly in 2005 issued a Statement to tell ITU about what it thought of ITU's role in the development of global internet policies and think that the statement would be available on the ICC website.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">There are some who have been vocal of wanting to see more efficient policy processes and are debating what enhanced cooperation.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><br>As civil society how can the voice of consumers be represented or at least other critical stakeholders within policy development space? I think that these are legitimate questions that require consideration.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, sans-serif">I would also be interested to learn from other individuals or organisations that deal with IDN other than the ITU Dedicated Working Group and ICANN. If you can point me to URLs, that would be great.</div>
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<div><br></div><div>I am also aware of the Declaration of the Committee of Ministers on the management of the Internet protocol address resources in the public interest (see:<a href="https://wcd.coe.int/ViewDoc.jsp?id=1678299&Site=CM&BackColorInternet=C3C3C3&BackColorIntranet=EDB021&BackColorLogged=F5D383" target="_blank">https://wcd.coe.int/ViewDoc.jsp?id=1678299&Site=CM&BackColorInternet=C3C3C3&BackColorIntranet=EDB021&BackColorLogged=F5D383</a> )</div>
<div><br></div><div>Tobias Mahler who is on this list had raised issues with s.9 of this Declaration on another list.</div><div><br></div><div>It will be great to see all those working on these policies to share resources and information, so that at the end of the day, consumer interests and end users are protected.<i><br>
</i></div><div><br></div><div>I was wondering whether civil society or individual members would like to put in submissions, then they are at liberty to do so.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div>Sala</div><div>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div>Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala</div><div><br></div><div>Tweeter: @SalanietaT</div><div>Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro</div><div>Cell: +679 998 2851</div>
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