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face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
governance@lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Jeremy Malcolm<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 31, 2011 3:09
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Milton L Mueller<BR><B>Cc:</B>
governance@lists.cpsr.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] FW: [IP] India
proposes UN "takeover" of Internet<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>On 10/31/2011 02:47 AM,
Milton L Mueller wrote:
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might still expect that its policies may be "somewhat less bad than the
status quo". But because of its multi-stakeholder character, we can hope for
much more: that civil society will finally have a and positive real impact
on policies such as those that are being developed right now, outside of any
transnational multi-stakeholder framework, that are destroying the Internet
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><B><I><SPAN
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This statement re-convinces me that you don’t have a good grasp of the
political realities. Sorry. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></I></B></P>
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New'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">First, give me an
example of what specific policies would be better if the UN were involved
and the number of states were broadened. Just one would do.
<O:P><BR></O:P></SPAN></I></B></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>There is a
whole literature full of examples. Internet governance as a field of
study in international relations is based around regime theory. It is
fundamental to this theory that states will come together and cooperate in a
regime even where this does not always coincide directly with their domestic
interests. The existence of the regime itself has a value which
counterbalances domestic considerations.<BR><BR>I won't go into the theory
here because you probably know it better than me, and as far as the specific
examples you've asked for I can only speculate, but don't consider it
implausible that if a new instrument were agreed that outlawed state-sponsored
cyberterrorism, this would influence domestic policy on its use amongst member
states - just as the Chemical Weapons Convention has done.<BR><BR>Let me be
frank. I don't like the CIRP proposal as it exists now. It has
major problems. One of those you've raised yourself, that governments
are represented twice - once on their own account, and again through the
intergovernmental advisory group. We would need to do a lot to get this
proposal into shape.<BR><BR>Ideally, I think we should be asking that each of
the advisory groups should have a veto of any recommendation that goes
forward. (In a way, this is a variation of the consociational model that
I advocated in my doctorate and since.) This will narrow the range of
issues on which the CIRP can produce recommendations, but it will also avoid
the worst dangers of this new body producing a rights-infringing document on
Internet security or the like.<BR><BR>But if we are to advocate for such
changes, we need to avoid throwing up our hands and dismissing the CIRP
proposal as a matter of principle. That is why I have focussed my
energies so far on comparing the potential of this proposal, done right, to
the inadequacies of the status quo. It is not that I am blind to its
deficiencies, but that I fear others will be blind to its promise if they
reject it too readily.<BR><BR>+5c to Lee McKnight's last mail.<BR><BR>
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