<span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps">Hello</span><br> <span class="hps">With regard to</span> <span class="hps">the African experience</span><span class="">, if</span> <span class="hps">that</span> <span class="hps">is more</span> <span class="hps">complex.</span> <span class="hps">Delegations to</span> <span class="hps">these meetings</span> <span class="hps">are constantly changing</span> <span class="hps">depending on whether</span> <span class="hps">the government changes</span> <span class="hps">or is</span> <span class="hps">revised</span><span class="">.</span> <span class="hps">In most</span> <span class="hps">cases,</span> <span class="hps">these are people</span> <span class="hps">without any</span> <span class="hps">skill or</span> <span class="hps">when</span> <span class="hps">the report</span> <span class="hps">went to the</span> <span class="hps">hierarchy is not</span> <span class="hps">published or</span> <span class="hps">made available to</span> <span class="hps">others.</span> <span class="hps atn">The principle of "</span><span class="">multistakeholder</span><span class="">"</span> <span class="hps">suffers</span> <span class="hps">in some</span> <span class="hps">countries where</span> <span class="hps">there is no</span> <span class="hps">framework for consultation</span> <span class="hps">or</span> <span class="hps">not respected.<br>
</span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps">The height of</span> <span class="hps">the problems</span> <span class="hps">in africa</span> <span class="hps">any initiative</span> <span class="hps">should be</span> <span class="hps">brought to the attention</span> <span class="hps">of the authorities,</span> <span class="hps">specifically</span> <span class="hps">with regard to</span> <span class="hps">ICT.</span></span><br>
<span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps"></span> <span class="hps">This is why</span> <span class="hps">we insist</span> <span class="hps">so much for</span> <span class="hps">the support</span> <span class="hps">and strengthening of</span> <span class="hps">national</span> <span class="hps">IGF</span><span class="">.</span></span><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps"><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/26 Norbert Bollow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Daniel Kalchev <<a href="mailto:daniel@digsys.bg">daniel@digsys.bg</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Involving governments in the management of Internet is one of the<br>
> worst ideas, ever.<br>
<br>
I agree, although I'd describe the reasons differently than you do.<br>
(I have a feeling that we might be very much in agreement, just<br>
inclined to express things differently.)<br>
<br>
From my perspective, the key problem with involving governments in<br>
core technical Internet governance and management is that they don't<br>
understand the technical and architectural concerns nor the processes<br>
for building technical consensus. I'd very much like to see government<br>
representatives with this important background knowledge becoming<br>
involved in all the various Internet governance institutions. In fact,<br>
with the exception of ICANN where the government representatives are<br>
fenced into their own little walled garden called GAC, in all the<br>
other core Internet governance fora there's nothing to hinder the<br>
effective participation of government representatives besides their<br>
lack of knowledge and capacity, i.e. the goverments' failure to hire<br>
people as their representatives who are able to interact in these fora<br>
competently and effectively.<br>
<br>
What is terrible is the idea of giving governments increased authority<br>
over the Internet without them having the prerequisite understanding,<br>
respect for technical consensus building processes and ability to<br>
effectively participate there. Governance by governments who are<br>
ignorant in this respect would result in the governments making either<br>
"political" decisions that are technically and systemically bad,<br>
likely resulting in severe degradation of fundamental human rights<br>
such as freedom of expression, and/or decisions that unreasonably<br>
favor the interests of big corporations who would spend significant<br>
money on lobbying for that to happen.<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
Norbert<br>
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