<span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="hps">Hello</span><br> <span class="hps">I support</span> <span class="hps">much</span> <span class="hps">Parminder</span><span class="">.</span> <span class="hps">Why</span> <span class="hps">a minority</span><span class="">, however powerful</span> <span class="hps">it may be,</span> <span class="hps">must make decisions</span> <span class="hps">without inquiring</span> <span class="hps">the opinions of</span> <span class="hps">others?</span> <span class="hps">Why would you want</span> <span class="hps">one</span> <span class="hps">thing and its opposite</span><span class="">?</span> <span class="hps">If we are to</span> <span class="hps">evolve</span> <span class="hps">the concept</span> <span class="hps">of democracy,</span> <span class="hps">we must</span> <span class="hps">stay in that</span> <span class="hps">sense.<br>
<br>Baudouin<br></span></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/6 parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<font face="sans-serif">I am not happy with the IGC just calling for
civil society inclusion. It is not enough if 20 largest governments
along with largely their industry take important Internet related
decisions, even if they include respective civil societies (or even the
broader global civil society) . Internet is global, and its major
decisions should be taken by a globally representative forum. For this
reason, whenever we write such letters for including civil society in
select country </font><font face="sans-serif">confabulations, we
should also ask for all countries to be included. For this purpose
appropriate institutional forms must be evolved. <br>
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I have no basic objection to some country meeting on select issues and
discussing things, However, this kind of thing happening in the context
of a deep global democratic deficit in IG area, and to the extent such
meeting perpetuate this democratic deficit, is what is the problem. We
must have a clear view on this 'problem'. <br>
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Otherwise I find the letter quite good. <br>
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Can we inquire with the drafters of the letter if we can add a sentence
on non inclusion of all countries in such 'global' IG discussions as we
call for inclusion of the civil society.<br><font color="#888888">
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parminder<br>
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On Thursday 06 October 2011 06:32 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
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<div>On 06/10/2011, at 12:39 AM, Izumi AIZU wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">given the limited info and also time, could
we start a consensus call with some conditional<br>
element?<br>
I mean we ask general support for joining this open letter within IGC
as <br>
consensus call and also ask the organizer to modify the wording that
reflects the <br>
latest and accurate info?<br>
<br>
and maybe the details can be left to us, co-coordinators if IGC also
agrees.<br>
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<div>That's a good plan; members please express your views on whether
we should subscribe to this open letter, subject to minor editing which
we will explore in the meantime. Izumi and I will assess the IGC's
position by COB tomorrow.</div>
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