Ivar<br><br>I did not bother to interpret anything - I merely provided a quick translation of what the paragraph in the law said. Paul interpreted it and frankly I don't know what he is on about.<br><br>My initial post was about not creating wrong impressions that might sidetrack attention, but now this is also becoming a distraction, so - as the Brazilians say - I am getting off the bus now!<br>
<br>Best regards to all, use the Sunday to recharge, <br>Um grande abraço,<br><br>Rui <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/9/18 Ivar A. M. Hartmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivarhartmann@gmail.com">ivarhartmann@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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the fact that you have come up with a different interpretation to that section in the law will do little to change this situation.<br>
Best,<br><font color="#888888">Ivar</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 20:51, Paul Lehto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lehto.paul@gmail.com" target="_blank">lehto.paul@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Ivar A. M. Hartmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivarhartmann@gmail.com" target="_blank">ivarhartmann@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I would by default oppose a global body of IG run by gov representatives which is either suggested by Brazilian gov or influenced by it in any way. <br>
Just as an example, Brazilian law prohibited people from making jokes about politicians running for office during election periods. This was in force up until a year ago until the Supreme Court (not Congress, mind you) decided to put an end to it.<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>In the public sector (government), at least a Supreme Court, as in the Brazilian example above, can correct a policy. <br><br>But, in the private sector there will be no such correction, <b>ever, and they too have "no joking" rules.</b> <br>
<br>Using employment as an example, private sector bosses often have rules of "no joking about the boss or the boss's interests or you will be fired". In every country I know of, such private sector "no joking" rules are enforceable law. Not only that, but there isn't even a reasonable chance that the power of the private sector boss to prohibit satire and joking will be open for *debate* anytime soon, much less that the ban on private sector joking would change. But <i>in Brazil's government, the no joking policy changed, </i>thanks to the Brazilian Supreme C<b>ourt.</b><b><b><b> <br>
<br>Even internet providers terms of service will have non-disparagement clauses and the like. So, if you are effective enough ridiculing something important to the private sector internet provider, you can have your connectivity terminated. If your anti-telcom humor is ineffective or no one listens, I grant that you may have an illusion of "freedom" and you might not be terminated. (That's just the freedom to be irrelevant, not the freedom to joke about or satirize the telcom.)<br>
<br>To oppose all government involvement is not only completely anti-democratic, but in the case of the "freedom to joke" it is like going out of the frying pan and into the fire.<br><br></b><b></b></b></b><font color="#888888">-- <br>
Paul R Lehto, J.D.<br>P.O. Box 1 <br>Ishpeming, MI 49849 <br><a href="mailto:lehto.paul@gmail.com" target="_blank">lehto.paul@gmail.com</a><br><a href="tel:906-204-4026" value="+19062044026" target="_blank">906-204-4026</a> (cell)<br>
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