McTim, one thing is for certain, it will be fun to watch and see what happens in the space. Watching the debate between Paul and Daniel reminds and others of course reminds me of a picture which was shown to a class. Students were asked what the picture was, some said, it's of a beautiful lady in her 20s who is refined and polished and I would not mind taking her out. Others said, it's a picture of an old lady, some said she looked like an old hag.<div>
<br></div><div>The distinction of course was in perception. They were both seeing the same picture but seeing totally different images. Stephen R Covey in his "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective people" illustrates this example in the first two chapters, I think.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I am not trying in any way to reduce the ongoing debate by boxing it but would merely like to as an observer of the debate appreciate where each debater is seeing from so I can appreciate the various rich contexts that you all have to offer.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think that when Daniel mentioned the regulation of the end point and the internet being a cloud, it helped me to see how his perception was being formed. Perhaps because my training is in law, so my natural paradigm is configured to see where Paul is coming from. </div>
<div><br></div><div>As someone who is immersed in internet governance, I am enjoying the multi-layered complexity and the challenges that governance discussion brings. In Covey's book, he explores how as people begin to attempt to see and understand the diverse perspectives, they could then start discussing solutions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Sala<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 2:03 AM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com" target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The reality is whether the company hosting the Application is based abroad, the fact that its reach is in Germany, and where according to the German Regulators, privacy laws are breached then their responsibility is to notify whoever is in breach. It follows then that Facebook can either revise the protocols or web analytics for the German community where they are not in breach.</blockquote>
<div><br></div></div><div>I don't think that follows at all. What the DE authorities can try to do is prosecute German websites for using the "Like" button. I have serious doubts that FB will disable "Like" for all German FB users.</div>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div><br></div>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div class="h5">"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div>Sala</div><div> </div><div>" Perfect Stillness in the midst of the noise".</div><br>
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