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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>>1. The Application must demonstrate service to the public interest, including one or more of the following characteristics<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>></span> Service in an under©\served language, the presence of which on the Internet has been limited<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>One more question arises that how the applicant would be able to show the revenue (or ROI) if the scope of the service (new gTLD) in being demonstrated to the area of ¡°Under-served¡± language, where the Internet has been limited? How the commitment or financial analysis be provided to pay back the fee of US$25K per annum.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>>3. The Application must NOT have any of the following characteristics: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=Default><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>>• A TLD string explicitly based, and related to, a trademark (ie. a "dot brand" TLD) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>>• A string that is, or is based on, a geographic name<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>One more question arises that why it is being proposed to exclude the trademark holders of the Developing Economies to be granted with the compensation in the fee and other relaxation, do they are getting the commercial earning equal to the brands/trademark holders of the Developed Economies? Similarly, it is also proposed by JAS WG that applicants from the Developing Economies (and prospective beneficiaries of the compensation) may not able to choose the geographic name, why? Just, to leave the options of geographic name for the richest economies? Again would referred to the comments recorded against above points (1) of under-served language - digitally divided corners of the globe will not be able to get benefit from the actual theme, the basic concept of the equal opportunities for everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>P.S. It seems to leave the business opportunities of geographical gTLDs for the M+M and Neustar and TLDH.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>></span>4.1.1¡<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>¡.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>>Cost reductions to encourage the build out of IDNs in small or under©\served languages.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>How much cost reduction is going to be recommended to encourage IDNs name spaces? The applicants from under-served language areas should also be grated the financial and technical support to develop the IDN-Conversion tools, Plugins, IDN-Web-Components, Browsers-IDN-Tool-Bars and Resellers-APIs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>>Further reductions recommended <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>>• Reduction of the Financial Continued Operation Instrument Obligation to 6©\12 months<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It is suggested that the reduction of the Financial obligations should be 24-36 months instead of just for 6-12 months, because the developing economies would not be able to spend huge funds on the advertisement and publicity, arranging to signing the contract with maximum registrars and appointing the resellers. (to cover the worldwide market, as comparing to the other competitors)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>>Application Period:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>As the WG report repeatedly mentioning that further subsequent round is not confirmed, it is suggested that the application period for the Developing Economies should be expanded to at least 9 ¨C to 12 months instead of just 3 months. This is because, normally the ratio of the technology awareness penetration is very slow in the developing economies. That is why the most of the prospective clients will be thinking to enter in this new gTLD business but as the learning curve is slow, they would not become confident enough to overcome on the weakness, unless they are educated. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>>Overall Application Fee Structure:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I would insist to reconsider the following proposal of Application Fee Structure on the basis of the selection of shorter Name Script.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/summary-analysis-eoi-04jan10-en.pdf">http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/summary-analysis-eoi-04jan10-en.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>QUOTE</span><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>IDN gTLDs and ccTLDs. To promote the selection of fewer characters for IDN gTLDs <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>(and ccTLDs), thereby reducing time and resource costs for Internet users, the first <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>round application fee should be charged according to the number of characters (i.e., a <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>basic fee for two letters; 50% additional for 3 letters; 100% additional for 4 letters; 150% <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>for five letters; and 100% for every extra letter for longer scripts). I.A. Shah (9 Dec. 2009).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>UNQUOTE</span><br><span style='color:#1F497D'>Similar option may please be considered for Commercial & Non-Commercial name script, for both Developing and Developed Economies.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>> Support the Ideas from Developing Economies (related to Social Welfare name script)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Again I would insist to reconsider the support of the Idea Generator, that if the name script is satisfy the means for social & public welfare, and in any case the originator (applicant) may not be able to proceed the TLD Registry application, the name script should be adopted by the ICANN or its subsidiary/ working group and the idea generator should be compensated with a royalty scheme. he could not continue to <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/summary-analysis-eoi-04jan10-en.pdf">http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/summary-analysis-eoi-04jan10-en.pdf</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>QUOTE</span><span style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>¡¡. If the noncommercial name¡¯s <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>usefulness is ensured by the public comment/survey process, the name should <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>become a ¨Dlive¡¬ TLD even if the applicant (aka the ¨Didea generator¡¬) is not going to host <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>or manage the registry for it, in which case it can be offered to other registry operators, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>an ICANN subsidiary or operated through the ICANN L-root server. ICANN could <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>allocate a minimum amount of the registration fee to be paid to the idea generator.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>UNQUOTE</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Imran Ahmed Shah [mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 29, 2011 11:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'governance@lists.cpsr.org'; 'Imran Ahmed Shah'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Roland Perry'; 'Avri Doria'; 'Asif Kabani'; 'ivarhartmann@gmail.com'; 'imran@uisoc.org'; 'imran@igfpak.org'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] new gTLDs for ICBCs of DgEc DdEc - Call for IGC Statement<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>May I have some additional comments to finalize the following statement for the support of ¡°</span>developing economies¡± in new gTLD Program.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>May I have some response from the coordinators, please?<br>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Imran Ahmad Shah<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> governance@lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Imran Ahmed Shah<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Roland Perry'; 'Avri Doria'; 'Asif Kabani'; ivarhartmann@gmail.com; imran@uisoc.org; imran@igfpak.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [governance] new gTLDs for ICBCs of DgEc DdEc - Call for IGC Statement<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>IGC CS Members,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Review comments are invited to address the important issue of core internet infrastructure foundation (in above context of ICANN¡¯s Board resolution # 20 of Nairobi meeting) to review the new gTLD program for expanding participation for Internet user Communities and Business user Constituencies of Developing Economies (IC/BC of DgEc) keeping in front the comprehension of negative influence and impact of Internet user Communities and Business user Constituencies of Developed Economies (IC/BC of DdEc).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>Reference context is the abstract from ICANN¡¯s following Resolution (#20) of Nairobi Meeting:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>"...to develop a sustainable approach to providing support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>Joint Working Group composed of members of ICANN's Supporting Organizations (SOs) and Advisory Committees (ACs) also known as the JAS WG was formed in late April 2010. JAS WG issued its first Milestone Report on 11 Nov 2010 (<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/jas-milestone-report-11nov10-en.pdf">http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/jas-milestone-report-11nov10-en.pdf</a>) and thereafter public comments consultation process was carried out but after extending comments period for +25 days only two comments were submitted from Africa. <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-11nov10-en.htm">http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-11nov10-en.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>The main comprehension was quoted by African Community was that ¡°¡all of the most obvious names, including IDNs, will be taken by rich investors, leaving little opportunity to local community institutions and developing country entrepreneurs¡¡±.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Now public comments are requested concerning the Second Milestone Report (Revised ver. 13 May 2011 <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/jas-second-milestone-report-09may11-en.pdf">http://www.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/jas-second-milestone-report-09may11-en.pdf</a>), which deals with a very important issue: ¡°How can ICANN assist applicants from developing economies increase their participation in the new generic Top-Level Domain (New gTLD) Program?¡±. The public comments period will be closed on 29th July 2011.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Previous discussion thread title subject were ¡°RE: [governance] Details on the ICANN JAS WG MR2 report was¡¡± and ¡°Re: [] Can Icann really be necessary?¡±.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>This discussion at IGC CS forum is started by Ivar A. M. Hartmann, asking for the influence of the Civil Society and comments contributed by other members.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><previous successful experience about ICANN¡¯s Policy Development through different forums including the ICANN¡¯s main source to listen ¡°Public Participation through Public Comments¡±><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'>¡°With reference to my past experience with ICANN, it was I who convinced them to reduce the cost of the IDN ccTLD to $26,000 and even more the full funding support to developing countries and territories. In order to convince, I had to keep writing to ICANN, submitting the public comments as well as a review of the financial analysis to the relevant department. I insisted on the points that were related to underdeveloped countries that instead of developing the Operating System, Browser, text writer and Application utilities in the local languages due to constraint of IT budgets and technical support, how they would be able to pay the huge amount as a fee for the namespace that may not be utilized without infrastructure and text editors capabilities. I asked them for not only provide them IDN TLD mechanism but also support them with the registry management at the ICANN¡¯s end, the L-Root Server. At the end, when the Fast Track round was launched, fortunately and interestingly, along with some other proposals; these were also adopted by offering the applicants from developing countries to request for the 100% waiver of this application fee. Later on UNESCO & ICANN has developed a partnership channel to provide technical support to the countries for establishment of IDN framework and to Promote Linguistic Diversity on Internet. (Imran)¡±<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><The main abstract of above discussion threads will be included here>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><new review comments on milestone reports may please be added here:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><review on 1st milestone report><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><review on 2nd milestone report><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanking you and Best Regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Imran Ahmad Shah<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Executive Member & Founder<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Urdu Internet Society/ Council<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Internet Governance of Pakistan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: governance@lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Roland Perry<br>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 08:24 PM<br>To: governance@lists.cpsr.org<br>Subject: Re: [governance] Details on the ICANN JAS WG MR2 report was Re: [] Can Icann really be necessary?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>In message <<a href="mailto:700EE5D8-AD3A-485C-8901-C437081EC472@ella.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>700EE5D8-AD3A-485C-8901-C437081EC472@ella.com</span></a>>, at 11:09:30 on Mon, 27 Jun 2011, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@ella.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>avri@ella.com</span></a>> writes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>- the Government Advisory Group has recommended the 76% figure.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Of $186KUSD, this is approx $44.6KUSD, ergo $45KUSD.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I wasn't following this blow by blow, but presumably the GAC proposed a 75% discount, which would give a fee of $46.5K, then someone suggested rounding it down to $45k. Of which 76% is the nearest integer percentage.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>--<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Roland Perry<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>____________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>governance@lists.cpsr.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To be removed from the list, visit:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>For all other list information and functions, see:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.igcaucus.org/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://translate.google.com/translate_t</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>