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    On Thursday 28 July 2011 04:26 PM, Renate Bloem (Gmail) wrote:
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                  Verdana; color: navy;">Dear Philippe and Jean-Louis,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                  Verdana; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Let me first thank
                  Philippe
                  for his kind words and his report. Just to add: <st1:country-region
                    w:st="on">South Africa</st1:country-region>, on
                  behalf of <st1:country-region w:st="on">India</st1:country-region>
                  and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
                      w:st="on">Brazil</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
                  made a strong statement in calling for an
                  intergovernmental mechanism for
                  enhanced cooperation, separate from but in close
                  cooperation with the IGF.in<br>
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    While there should be some significant institutional innovations to
    a traditional inter-governmental platform for global IG (some such
    innovations were suggested by my organisation in its submission to
    the consultation on enhanced cooperation in Dec 2010), I find the
    demand for a new platform for democratic global Internet policy
    making very welcome especially in its being conceptualised to be in
    close cooperation/ connection with the IGF. <br>
    <br>
    It is especially so if the IGF can reform itself to be able to
    channel multistakeholder inputs purposively into this new policy
    making platform (and these three countires have indeed sought such
    improvements in the IGF whereas developed countries, along with many
    civil society actors from developing countries, have opposed them).<br>
    <br>
    I completely fail to understand how those who enthusiastically
    engage with OECD kind of inter-governmental poliy-making processes,
    whose processes of multistakeholder input are patently much less
    open and democratic than the above EC-IGF connection scheme, can be
    against this kind of policy making system for the global stage. How
    do they justify it? I know I have asked this question of simple
    democratic equity and fairness several times but I am yet to get a
    proper answer to it. I earnestly hope that those to whom I direct
    this question will engage with it in the open discursive spirit that
    is the hallmark of civil society, and its principle basis of
    legitimacy. <br>
    <br>
    parminder <br>
    <br>
    <br>
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                size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                  Verdana; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Otherwise ECOSOC
                  adopted without vote all the decisions from its
                  subsidiary body the CSTD,
                  including “Participation on non-governmental
                  organizations and civil society
                  entities not accredited to WSIS in the work of CSTD”,
                  taking down the
                  last barrier for participation in the Commission.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Verdana"
                size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                  Verdana; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">However,
                  participation
                  in ECOSOC itself is still restricted to ECOSOC NGOs.
                  But these 4 week long
                  substantive sessions in July, alternating between NY
                  and Geneva, are seen by
                  many NGOs/CSOs just as rubberstamping exercises, apart
                  from the High level
                  segment at the beginning, and therefore not worth
                  their attendance (I have a slightly
                  different opinion) , except for Geneva or NY based
                  entities for sections of
                  their interest. Jean Louis, this may explain the low
                  attendance of CSOs. But
                  the relative high attendance of Governments at least
                  indicates interest in the issues.
                  NGOs are invited and can also take the floor on any
                  item.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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                    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>
                    [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>] <b><span
                        style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Jean-Louis
                    FULLSACK<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                    jeudi, 28. juillet 2011
                    10:45<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>;
                    Philippe Blanchard<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                    re: [governance] Meeting
                    report ECOSOC presentations</span></font><span
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                  12pt;">Dear members of the list <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Philippe wrote :<br>
                  < we had the opportunity to have some comments from
                  the civil society (ISOC-
                  Internet Society ; CCI – International Chambers of
                  Commerce).><br>
                  <br>
                  I'm surprised to find these orgs under a "civil
                  society label". Some
                  complementary comments are needed ... especially
                  related to the sentence<br>
                  < the attendance was fairly high. And that is
                  definitely a good sign.><br>
                  <br>
                  Can we, CS representatives in the WSIS process,
                  qualify such a "biased
                  attendance" as a good sign ? For which of our goals ?
                  What I would like to
                  know is how many true CS delegates attended these
                  meetings and which
                  organisatiions they represented. Additionnally it'd be
                  interesting to know how
                  DCs were represented in these meetings : governement,
                  regional orgs, CS and
                  private sector. <br>
                  <br>
                  Perhaps Philippe -or any other delegate on these
                  meetings- could provide us
                  these data. Many thanks in advance.<br>
                  <br>
                  Jean-Louis Fullsack<br>
                  CSDPTT  <br>
                       <br>
                  <br>
                     <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
                  style="font-size: 12pt;">> Message du 27/07/11
                  10:11<br>
                  > De : "Philippe Blanchard" <br>
                  > A : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>
                  > Copie à : "Renate Bloem (Gmail)" <br>
                  > Objet : [governance] Meeting report ECOSOC
                  presentations<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Dear All,<br>
                  > <br>
                  > please find hereby some notes I took during the
                  ECOSOC presentations. For
                  reading and archiving purposes, I enclosed the Word
                  document.<br>
                  > Kind regards,<br>
                  > Philippe<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > Data<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Author : Philippe Blanchard<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Subject : UN Ecosoc plenary session, reports on
                  the « World summit on
                  information society » and « internet governance forum
                  »<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > 1. Referential documents<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Please refer to the ECOSOC webpages and
                  especially the internet activity
                  related reports :<br>
                  > <br>
                  > • Report of the Secretary-General on progress
                  made in the
                  implementation of and follow-up to the outcomes of the
                  World Summit on the Information
                  Society at the regional and international levels
                  (A/66/64 – E/2011/77)<br>
                  > <br>
                  > • Report of the Working Group on improvements to
                  the Internet
                  Governance Forum (A/66/67-E/2011/79)<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > 2. Points of interest<br>
                  > <br>
                  > I will not paraphrase the content of the two
                  reports and I am just taking
                  the liberty to highlight some elements of interest.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > Strong agreement on some stakes both on the
                  citizen level
                  (privacy,…) and the economical level (growth factor,
                  cloud
                  computing…) and on some risks (fraudulent use ;
                  espionage…). But no
                  mention of key elements such as “freedom of speech”,
                  “local
                  vs universal jurisdiction”… I fear those elements are
                  definitely
                  more controversial and will be/must be addressed once
                  the e-governance
                  principles have been set.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > · I would personally suggest we work in parallel
                  the meta-level
                  (e-governance) and the fields of application. We are
                  bound to proceed in a
                  co-development scheme rather than a (more historical)
                  sequential process.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > · IGF is definitely the opportunity to address
                  this.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > The principles of stake-holder participation,
                  multilateral work are
                  clearly understood and (at least) communicated. After
                  the panelists’s
                  presentation, we had the opportunity to have some
                  comments from the civil society
                  (ISOC- Internet Society ; CCI – International Chambers
                  of Commerce).<br>
                  > <br>
                  > · Nicolas SEIDLER, Policy Advisor for ISOC : for
                  more information on his
                  report. (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:seidler@isoc.org">seidler@isoc.org</a>)<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > We were reminded the “sovereignty of States” (not
                  a surprise)
                  and the “necessity to engage in a multistakeholders”.
                  IGF role is
                  unanimously recognized. US representatives praised the
                  “consultative
                  role” and the fact it was “a no-decision body” (to
                  ensure
                  leeway and avoid being struck in some diplomatic
                  vocabulary bargaining).<br>
                  > <br>
                  > · However, I would have liked to have some
                  definition of “internet
                  eco-system”. I am afraid there is still a
                  misunderstanding about the
                  existence of a theoretical frontier between IRL (in
                  real-life) and e-life. Cf
                  some comments, for instance on “internet is a global
                  facility” from
                  a State representative (Venezuela, I think)<br>
                  > <br>
                  > · Some confusion between “e-governance” and
                  “internet
                  governance” also appeared in floor comments, following
                  the reports
                  presentation.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > · Some demands to extend IGF role (CUBA) and a
                  request from the Working
                  group (India, Brasil and RSA- South Africa) to benefit
                  from a “official
                  platform”. I am not sure if it was complementary to
                  IGF or not. This
                  platform would support more effectively the developing
                  countries actions and
                  would bring up “processes to enhance collaboration”.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > Points of interest (cont’d)<br>
                  > <br>
                  > We were told that Key performance indicators have
                  been agreed upon by the
                  CSTD. I think this is key and would suggest these are
                  shared and monitored by
                  all the stake-holders and followers. (but it is
                  probably my “If you
                  cannot measure it, it is just a hobby” mindset J ).<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > I am afraid network neutrality was only mentioned
                  once and I hope I
                  wasn’t listening carefully enough.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > · For me this element is definitely key. Yes I
                  understand both the
                  political and economical stakes… but it is core.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > We were also told that IGF Executive Coordinator
                  (Markus Kummer’s
                  previous position) should be soon filled. No deadlines
                  announced yet.<br>
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                  > Conclusion<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Very interesting and informative session. I
                  understood the meeting room
                  was slightly more packed on the previous days, with
                  more politically sensitive
                  discussions but the attendance was fairly high. And
                  that is definitely a good
                  sign.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > I would like to take the opportunity to thank
                  twice Mrs Renate BLOEM:<br>
                  > <br>
                  > ü she found the way to get me accredited. And I
                  can swear it was no piece
                  of cake. Despite the confirmation she had beforehand,
                  she had to spend 30 mn
                  securing my access. My accreditation was issued at
                  10:02 for a meeting starting
                  at 10:00.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > ü The discussion we had after the session was
                  really great and she brought
                  challenging food for thought.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > Vielen Danke, Renate, du bist wunderbar.<br>
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                  > <br>
                  > On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Renate Bloem (Gmail)
                  wrote:<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Hi Philippe,<br>
                  > <br>
                  > I have tried to accredit you under CIVICUS, hope
                  it is not too late<br>
                  > BTW, this item will only be dealt with on
                  Tuesday, 26 July, 10h00-11h030 <br>
                  > Best<br>
                  > Renate<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Renate Bloem<br>
                  > Main Representative<br>
                  > Civicus UN Geneva<br>
                  > Tel:/Fax +33450 850815/16<br>
                  > Mobile : +41763462310 <br>
                  > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:renate.bloem@civicus.org">renate.bloem@civicus.org</a><br>
                  > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:renate.bloem@gmail.com">renate.bloem@gmail.com</a> <br>
                  > skype: Renate.Bloem<br>
                  > <br>
                  > CIVICUS: World Alliance for Citizen Participation<br>
                  > PO BOX 933, 2135, Johannesburg, South Africa<br>
                  > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.civicus.org">www.civicus.org</a><br>
                  > Read e-CIVICUS, a free weekly newsletter on civil
                  society<br>
                  > (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.civicus.org/ecivicus-newsletter">http://www.civicus.org/ecivicus-newsletter</a>)<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Please don't print this e-mail unless you really
                  need to. Thank you.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <br>
                  > -----Original Message-----<br>
                  > From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>
                  [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>] On
                  Behalf<br>
                  > Of Philippe Blanchard<br>
                  > Sent: vendredi, 22. juillet 2011 11:39<br>
                  > To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a>; Roland Perry<br>
                  > Subject: Re: [governance] ECOSOC<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Dear Roland<br>
                  > <br>
                  > thank you for the follow-up.<br>
                  > I have enquired and unfortunately, only the
                  "usual suspects" :-)
                  can make<br>
                  > it.<br>
                  > I discovered that the "International NON-Olympic
                  Committee" is
                  welcome<br>
                  > whereas the "International Olympic Commitee",
                  despite its UN
                  recognition, is<br>
                  > not !!!<br>
                  > <br>
                  > I will follow the outcomes through the net.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > Kind regards,<br>
                  > Philippe<br>
                  > <br>
                  > On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:57 PM, Roland Perry wrote:<br>
                  > <br>
                  > In message
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:1D8E4662-5BB4-40E1-9E5E-C8BCB994F2AA@me.com"><1D8E4662-5BB4-40E1-9E5E-C8BCB994F2AA@me.com></a>,
                  at
                  11:35:13 on<br>
                  > Thu, 21 Jul 2011, Philippe Blanchard writes<br>
                  > <br>
                  > > Anyone knows the access condition for public
                  viewing ?<br>
                  > <br>
                  > I have a feeling you have to be [a government or]
                  ECOSOC accredited.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://csonet.org/index.php?menu=113">http://csonet.org/index.php?menu=113</a><br>
                  > <br>
                  > Several of the 'usual suspects', here, have this.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > > creditation.pdf><br>
                  > <br>
                  > ps. It's the CSTD (in effect an ECOSOC subgroup)
                  which is still<br>
                  > admitting "WSIS accredited" people, which in
                  practice means
                  'anyone'.<br>
                  > But you would still have to register for that [1]
                  in advance.<br>
                  > <br>
                  > [1]
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.unctad.org/en/docs/ecn162011d1_en.pdf">http://www.unctad.org/en/docs/ecn162011d1_en.pdf</a><br>
                  > -- <br>
                  > Roland Perry<br>
                  >
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